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Old 10-29-2007, 10:42 PM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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I thought Georgia was in Russia?

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He knows exactly which Georgia he was referring to, and it wasn't in Eastern Europe.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Alternative energy and the Automobile Industry

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I thought Georgia was in Russia?

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He knows exactly which Georgia he was referring to, and it wasn't in Eastern Europe.

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semms to me someone needs to grow a sense of humour.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:56 PM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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I thought Georgia was in Russia?

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He knows exactly which Georgia he was referring to, and it wasn't in Eastern Europe.

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semms to me someone needs to grow a sense of humour.

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I've listened to that nonsense for most of my life, from people with alot less education and life experience than I, and sometimes I just hear enough and tell people to go DIAGF.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default didn\'t have time to read the whole thread, sry...

i always tend to think that when it comes to cars vs global warming, esp in the u.s, the problem isn't the fossil fuel motors, but the cars themselves....

really, may the automobile-centric cultute/infrastructure in amreica be more of a symptom of a problem than the problem itself? a vast majority of the communities and cities here make car ownership a requirment of first-class citizenship, and no matter what cars run on, it takes a helluva lot of oil/coal, etc to build and fuel/charge them, no? when was the last time you walked to the store or used public transit? could you do so efficiently, even if you wanted too? the design of our communities makes this very rare.

also, i aggree with nonfiction, generally, market forces are the onlt ones that can really effect change, though govt subsities (like tax breaks for efficient design) that manipulate those market forces can stimulate such change like kick-starting a bike. sometimes.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Alternative energy and the Automobile Industry

I thought this was an interesting alternative to electric cars:

http://www.vidly.net/video-compresse...ngine-car.html
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Alternative energy and the Automobile Industry

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I thought this was an interesting alternative to electric cars:

http://www.vidly.net/video-compresse...ngine-car.html

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This is very interesting. If all of the claims stand up then the technology looks very practical for in-town driving. Based on the constant delays in promised production I smell some hype tho.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:42 PM
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You believe a corporations property belongs to the public? I don't. That patent was available to anyone with the know how to develop it.

If Chevron has a patent on an electric battery that will obsolete oil I think they would run with the idea as it would be very profitable. Their aim is making money not saving oil.

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I have never said that corporate property should be public. I was making the point that the profit motive doesn't always deliver the best possible solution.

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Best possible solution for who? The problem here is you profess to know the best solution. The free market directs resources to their highest and best use through the profit motive. There are other electric batteries with more promise and electric cars are coming to market, Chevron did not stop electric car innovation.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:55 PM
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I thought this was an interesting alternative to electric cars:

http://www.vidly.net/video-compresse...ngine-car.html

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How about an electric/air hybrid or an Air/Electric battery/solar panel car?

That's an awesome clip though. I am definatly gonna spend some time looking into this company.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:27 PM
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Best possible solution for who? The problem here is you profess to know the best solution. The free market directs resources to their highest and best use through the profit motive. There are other electric batteries with more promise and electric cars are coming to market, Chevron did not stop electric car innovation.

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Best possible solution means pareto optimal solution obviously. Srsly why not stop parroting every cliche you've heard on this forum and learn about economics a little. Yes markets tend to direct resources optimally. But it's not magic. It doesn't always happen.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:11 AM
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Best possible solution for who? The problem here is you profess to know the best solution. The free market directs resources to their highest and best use through the profit motive. There are other electric batteries with more promise and electric cars are coming to market, Chevron did not stop electric car innovation.

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Best possible solution means pareto optimal solution obviously. Srsly why not stop parroting every cliche you've heard on this forum and learn about economics a little. Yes markets tend to direct resources optimally. But it's not magic. It doesn't always happen.

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I know enough about economics to know that Chevron is not standing in the way of electric cars being produced. When your arguments turn away from facts and reasoned arguments and move towards name calling and insults then I think it is you who needs to learn more about economics so you can make better arguments to support your case.
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