Am I being rigged by Full Tilt Poker or is this normal variance? - Page 9

yoshi123 · #81 07-10-2007, 11:37 AM

So I guess the consensous from the poker pros is .... only play the nuts and you'll be fine.

Everyone else thinks it's rigged.... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

vector2 · #82 07-10-2007, 11:42 AM

I dunno what these other donks are talking about but $7800 is (or was) easily enough for 5/10NL. I mean hell, $7800 is almost eight buy-ins. There's never been a case of anyone going broke at NL when they have over 5 buy-ins. Play on, yoshi.

capone0 · #83 07-10-2007, 11:44 AM

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Fair comments by everyone, good or bad lol.

In response to Wiggs, you cannot worry about having the absolute nuts 24/7. I won quite a large chunk by making good calls when I had the 2nd nuts. If I folded every time I was confronted with a big raise and said 'uh oh, might be beat' then I'd never get past 2K. I'd be bluffed off every pot and end up with a big bill for the PF raises and blinds.
Maybe I should post up some winning hands to see what I mean. A prime example was when I hit trip 6s today, the guy could have had trip 7s or trip 10s, but I got all my money in anyway and was the winner. I put him on a big pair and was right. That's the luck factor.

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Are you leveling. I hope not.

Your posts make you sound very naive. I think your playing above your bankroll as do others. Yes you went from 1200 to 9k or whatever, but so can other bad players on heaters. I'm not saying I'm the best player in the world but atleast I know my limitations (I normally 4 table .5/1 NL). I don't think you know yours. If your thinking the beats you post are somehow out of the ordinary your kidding yourself. These are typical beats and they happen all the time. You just remember the times were the beats happened to you and not when you gave them out. You act like the odds are 0% of these things happening, they aren't anywhere close to 0%, they happen to everyone who plays poker on a consistant basis. You aren't getting rigged, your getting brought back down to earth as seen by your lack of proper learning of poker and your lack of skill.

There are many people on 2+2 who have played hundreds of thousands of hands who have experienced these beats on the hour. Please stop posting about them and acting like your getting cheated by the site. If everyone who ever had a bad beat claimed they were getting cheated, nobody would ever play.

yoshi123 · #84 07-10-2007, 11:44 AM

I hope to play on.....once I've had some feedback from everyone wether the doomsday switch has happened.

As I said earlier, today I was -$400 playing fairly tightly and missing every flop, then hit trip 6s and all the money went in for me to win a $2K pot.

I'm just wondering if Full Tilt staff have been reading this thread and flicked the 'win' switch temporarily.

React1oN · #85 07-10-2007, 11:45 AM

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Fair comments by everyone, good or bad lol.

In response to Wiggs, you cannot worry about having the absolute nuts 24/7. I won quite a large chunk by making good calls when I had the 2nd nuts. If I folded every time I was confronted with a big raise and said 'uh oh, might be beat' then I'd never get past 2K. I'd be bluffed off every pot and end up with a big bill for the PF raises and blinds.
Maybe I should post up some winning hands to see what I mean. A prime example was when I hit trip 6s today, the guy could have had trip 7s or trip 10s, but I got all my money in anyway and was the winner. That's the luck factor.

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I wish I could make aggressive calls with the second nuts but I'm not at that level yet.

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yepitstrue · #86 07-10-2007, 11:46 AM

Just my 2 cents on Stars and not Full Tilt.

I started off at Stars making a good bit. I wasn't playing limits near that high, just lo limit NL games. I won a $5 tourney good for about $1800 and was up a few thousand. After about 7 weeks I started getting horrible beats. I'm not talking about gutshots hitting the river. I'm talking AK2 flop with AA and slick hitting running Ks for all the chips. Had 3 one outers hit on the river in one day. I couldn't believe the beats. I thought, hmmmm. New screename big money, little bit later wham. Said what the hell, time for a new screename.

Screename #2. Up 3 grand in a month. AA actually won 3/4s of the time. All is well. About 8 weeks in, the beats started happening again. Some very funny stuff for sure. For all of you that say no rake maniputlation goes on, explain this. 6 Player table: Im in with QQ for fairly heavy action. To make a long story short the board Shows: Kc Qc Jc 4d Jh

I get stacked with Qs full. Another guy loses with Ks full (KK). 3rd guy loses with quad Js (JJ). The donkey flips over Ac10c for the royal. I think you have better odds gettin struck by lighting 50ft underground while winning the lotto.

Time for a new screename! I have went through 9 screenames now and have profited nicely on every one until the end of the 2nd month playin. The beats start to fall so I cash profit and move to new screename.

You can say what you will but it's proven in my mind that Stars manipulates accounts fairly shortly after opening and profiting for a loss. I have figured out how to profit off of it to the max though. I know you'll think Im crazy but hey, I have the proof in past experience and in Tracker itself.

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PocketElevens · #87 07-10-2007, 11:48 AM

No time to read through replies,

Has it been suggest that full tilt might be rigging you?

shortline99 · #88 07-10-2007, 11:48 AM

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and your re-level attempt failed but still made me lol

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it's tough to level with 18K posts.

anyway, yoshi, a big part of poker is having the best hand once in a while. and when you do have the best hand, put a lot of money in. when you don't, don't put a lot of money in. make your second best hands in small pots and your monsters in big ones. you will see a lot of [censored] in poker if you play high stakes with not a lot of cash. no matter how unlikely a thing may seem, it's always more likely than you think.

yoshi123 · #89 07-10-2007, 11:50 AM

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Your posts make you sound very naive. I think your playing above your bankroll as do others. Yes you went from 1200 to 9k or whatever, but so can other bad players on heaters.

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The ride from $1200 - $9000 was an extremely rocky one, I would hardly call it a heater. I had to lay down a few nice hands and take a few on the chin also.

I can't really respect your comments as you play 4 tables at once - to me that's just plain stupid and you can't be fully concentrating on all 4 games - or rather your focus would be considerably diminished compared to playing a single table.

I'm sure some people will disagree, I've seen people play 16 tables at once and I just (personally) think it's crazy.

yoshi123 · #90 07-10-2007, 11:53 AM

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and your re-level attempt failed but still made me lol

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it's tough to level with 18K posts.

anyway, yoshi, a big part of poker is having the best hand once in a while. and when you do have the best hand, put a lot of money in. when you don't, don't put a lot of money in. make your second best hands in small pots and your monsters in big ones. you will see a lot of [censored] in poker if you play high stakes with not a lot of cash. no matter how unlikely a thing may seem, it's always more likely than you think.

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Good point. If I'm not sure, I try to keep the pots small. Maybe I should extend that theory further to bigger hands where I'm 'probably' the winner and not 'certainly'.