June Low-Content Thread - Page 9

jkamowitz · #81 06-10-2007, 11:05 AM

I've been "that guy" only twice.

The first time I couldnt take it longer than an orbit, convinced her she was bored and we left to go to dinner.

The second time was after a tremendous session the night before, an awesome day session and I just didn't want to play anymore but she did. So me, her and a friend went and tore up a 2-4 game for about two hours. My first hand I raised two tables of limpers with JJ, my girl called in the sb and was nice enough to only bet once with her QQ on a QQJ98. My mouth dropped as I realized my girl caught quads her first hand and she wasn't even aware she had the best hand "I thought someone could have a straight"

HOWMANY · #82 06-10-2007, 01:55 PM

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your flop call in hand 1 -- ?????

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I call a lot on the flop when I think I can still have the best hand often even if my hand looks pretty bad, especially if I've been defending a lot and then folding flop. I'm pretty sure it's right to call on the flop there against his range even if only barely and even if it's slightly wrong the fact that I stick to him like glue is for sure good. I probably didn't think about it at the time but on this flop+turn most people have to be worried about turn c/r coming a lot too because they can't possibly think I have K6o.

I didn't even pay attention to that part of the hand and wish I hadn't posted it now because it is actually somewhat "standard" for me so I will have to either not do that against you or I will have to start calling on the turn as well.

PokerBob · #83 06-10-2007, 02:35 PM

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your flop call in hand 1 -- ?????

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.....can be fine given the right dynamic.

cowboy billy · #84 06-11-2007, 08:13 PM

as I was bumping my ds over the 400 mark today, this donk to my right kept bitching about how ul he was for not hitting his oesd + fd in a big pot, even tho he had just 4-outered me in the hand before

I smiled at him and said something stupid like, "$hit happens", bc I couldn't think of anything cool to say -> that beat actually stung the most

more kinda on topic: as far as I can recall, every time somebody wanted to watch me play live, I've lost monies, but I don't believe in good/bad charms, so it's all good

HOWMANY · #85 06-11-2007, 09:00 PM

HOW THE [censored] DO PEOPLE PLAY NO LIMIT. I JUST FINISHED A 6 TABLING SESSION OF 1/2 AND I WANT TO [censored] KILL MYSELF. GET AA 3 TIMES, FOLD TO ME IN BB ONCE, THEN THESE TWO HAPPEN. THEN I C/R PUSH A FLUSH DRAW AFTER NOT PLAYING A HAND PAST THE FLOP IN AN HOUR ON A TABLE AND THE TIGHT GUY CALLS WITH ONE PAIR. HAS HE NOT READ HOYLE DUNSONS BOOK, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO BROKE WITH ONE PAIR. The one set I flopped turn out really well, falling to TPNK backdooring a flush then checking it (very clever) so I would foolishly push what I assumed was a nut hand. Seriously, in limit there's nothing that gets me more wet and excited than everyone's awful play, but in NL it just burns me up when someone plays bad and gets lucky. I think if I was at all confident in my play it wouldn't be as annoying but when I am trying to learn and then seemingly run horrible it really doesn't do me good. I was pretty happy with how I played every hand but 1 but then again I'm sure that many retards are happy with themselves when they smear their feces all over the wall, that doesn't mean it was right. I'm also pretty sure that I get dealt like all of my good hands OOP so I can't even get as much value or play as well as I normally would. I certainly don't get a shortage of unplayable hands from the HJ-button though. Looking through PT where I lost the most on a hand I see one where I 3barreled some guy with AK and then he c/minraised me after a backdoor flush became a possibility so I assumed he flopped bottom or mid pair and then backdoored me because you'd have to be a moron to play a set like that. Then again he probably did have a set and put me on AK and knew he could only extract value by letting me try to bluff him. I don't think I played it particularly bad but I thought it was [censored] hilarious anyway.

1046 hands, -178, 23/20 blah blah meow chow. No [censored] clue what any PT numbers mean in NL but I know that red dollars typically aren't good. The money obviously makes no [censored] difference, it's the losing that makes me want to rip someone's arms right from the [censored] sockets and then beat them with their own appendages. I also just looked at my showdown stats for this session. 20/35 wtsd/w$sd. Despite knowing very little about NL I have a strange hunch that when you showdown half as many hands as you do in limit you should probably be winning more of them, not less.

I mean come on, K8o? If he's stupid enough to call a big raise with it I know he's stupid enough to stack off if just the K came, why can't that happen one time in the billion hands of this horrible [censored] game I've played?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($276.50)
MP ($236.15)
CO ($60.90)
Button ($134.15)
SB ($201)
Hero ($291.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, CO folds, Button calls $9.

Flop: ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button calls $20.

Turn: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero raises to $242, Button calls $77.15 (All-In).

River: ($410.15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $410.15

Results:
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 8c Ks (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: Button wins $271.30. Hero wins $138.85.

This one was a close call, I thought I was going to win it. He threw in a little slowroll on the turn so I mistakenly assumed I had the nut hand on the river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($216)
Hero ($284.10)
BB ($91.45)
UTG ($90)
MP ($153.65)
CO ($254.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG calls $9, Button folds.

Flop: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($66) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $63, UTG calls $59 (All-In).

River: ($188) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $188

Results:
Hero has As Ac (three of a kind, aces).
UTG has Js Kc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins $184. Hero wins $4.

Notice his world class trap play. I naturally assumed nobody would be moronic enough to check AT here and backdoor flush seemed pretty unlikely because that [censored] is illegal in NL so I pushed against what I thought was just some moronic T wanting to get stacked. I was right about him wanting to get stacked, it's a shame I didn't know he was going to get lucky so I could have folded the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($86.45)
UTG ($159.70)
Hero ($246.90)
Button ($277.20)
SB ($198)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($21) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $32, UTG calls $22.

Turn: ($85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70.

River: ($225) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $50, UTG calls $48.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $323.70

Results:
UTG has Ts 7s (flush, ten high).
Hero has 3h 3c (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: UTG wins $322.40. Hero wins $1.30.

Oh, here's another hand where I got trapped like the moron I am:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($86.15)
Hero ($222)
CO ($77)
Button ($134.60)
SB ($224.70)
BB ($307)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($21) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35.

River: ($115) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $166, UTG calls $14.15 (All-In).

Final Pot: $311.15

Results:
UTG has 2d 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Hero has Tc As (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: UTG wins $175.30.

Captain R · #86 06-12-2007, 03:06 AM

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HOW THE [censored] DO PEOPLE PLAY NO LIMIT.

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Poker is fun
for everyone
except my opponents

private joker · #87 06-12-2007, 04:09 AM

Minor rant for today:

People who show you their winning cards after you muck and they take the pot without showing down. Sometimes you're curious what they held even when you know you're beat, but most of the time I'm more pissed by the attitude it suggests -- which is often "Look at the nuts I had, buddy." OMG just shut up and put your cards down idiot, it was obvious.

One examples is like when the board is Axxx with 2 spades or something and you have no pair but a spade draw so you check-call the turn. The river bricks off and you check-fold the river and your opponent turns over an Ace and nods like "good fold." ORLY?

But the worst is when their hand was even more face up. Argh. I was playing against a nit Sunday night at Commerce, one of those golfer-looking shmucks who shows up in khaki shorts, leather sandals, and some yellow plaid shirt from Ross to match his smarmy grin. These are the guys who cold-call PF with AKo because it's a drawing hand but it's too good to fold.

Anyway, this jackoff raises in MP folded to me and I 3-bet AA in the BB and he flat-calls. Flop is Q96, I bet, he calls. Turn is a 4, I bet, he raises, I insta-3-bet, he calls. River is a K. I bet, he raises, I turbo-muck face-up.

The dealer shoves him the pot and he looks at me and flashes KK and nods. ORLY? Is that what you had? WOW, no kidding?

Damn I just wanted to take those two kings and staple them to his sandals.

Sailboats · #88 06-12-2007, 04:19 AM

Some people, pros even, won't play no-limit. They can't handle the swings

just messing with ya. But what tends to bother me is people don't shut up about the hand that they folded... "i would have flopped two pair!" wow really... call next time or shut it.

HOWMANY · #89 06-12-2007, 04:29 AM

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just messing with ya. But what tends to bother me is people don't shut up about the hand that they folded... "i would have flopped two pair!" wow really... call next time or shut it.

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Hahaha, I do this all the time playing live. Except like 99% of the time when I say it I don't even remember what my cards were. Trips on board? After the hand I'll say "oh man I had X". If someone gets 2 outted and I think it will steam them then "actually it was a one outter, I had the deuce of unicorns". It's pretty fun and breaks the boredom of doing nothing.

StrictlyStrategy · #90 06-12-2007, 04:35 AM

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Minor rant for today:

People who show you their winning cards after you muck and they take the pot without showing down. Sometimes you're curious what they held even when you know you're beat, but most of the time I'm more pissed by the attitude it suggests -- which is often "Look at the nuts I had, buddy." OMG just shut up and put your cards down idiot, it was obvious.

One examples is like when the board is Axxx with 2 spades or something and you have no pair but a spade draw so you check-call the turn. The river bricks off and you check-fold the river and your opponent turns over an Ace and nods like "good fold." ORLY?

But the worst is when their hand was even more face up. Argh. I was playing against a nit Sunday night at Commerce, one of those golfer-looking shmucks who shows up in khaki shorts, leather sandals, and some yellow plaid shirt from Ross to match his smarmy grin. These are the guys who cold-call PF with AKo because it's a drawing hand but it's too good to fold.

Anyway, this jackoff raises in MP folded to me and I 3-bet AA in the BB and he flat-calls. Flop is Q96, I bet, he calls. Turn is a 4, I bet, he raises, I insta-3-bet, he calls. River is a K. I bet, he raises, I turbo-muck face-up.

The dealer shoves him the pot and he looks at me and flashes KK and nods. ORLY? Is that what you had? WOW, no kidding?

Damn I just wanted to take those two kings and staple them to his sandals.

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It really, REALLY pisses me off when they show a horrrrrrrrrible hand it's like "Yeah, I had the goods, don't worry."

I raised KQ and a tight kid who was running really bad 3bet behind me and this guy on the button called 3 cold in quick rythym. Flop was Kxx and kid bet, guy raised, kid sighed and called, turn was a Q and the kid check-folded JJ and the guy shows K6s
"Yeah! You had the goods, NICE [censored] HAND ASSFART"

Kid got so mad he walked off the table for a few minutes.