Can you name an actor who...

[Kamakaze22]

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Nicolas Cage and before the flames start, here is the reasoning. A movie can be good or bad but it will NEVER be his fault.

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Windtalkers.

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wasn't his fault

[Lazy Meatball]

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Nicolas Cage and before the flames start, here is the reasoning. A movie can be good or bad but it will NEVER be his fault.

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I don't think you understand the theme of this thread. It's not whether an actor had a bad performance, it's whether he was in a bad movie. So Nicholas Cage loses out for Gone in 60 Seconds and Conair, I think we can agree on this.

Now as a secondary argument, I think Nicholas Cage is terrible in almost everything he does. You obviously like him, let's leave it at that.


PS. More strikes against Mel Gibson, Conspiracy Theory was awful, and personally I don't like the Patriot, but that one's more debateable.


I like this game, it's a great way for me point out all the things I don't like.

[SharkTank43]

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Nicolas Cage and before the flames start, here is the reasoning. A movie can be good or bad but it will NEVER be his fault.

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Windtalkers.wasn't his fault

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Agreed, but the poll is actors who haven't appeared in a [censored] movie. And Nicholas Cage has appeared in [censored] movies. I feel bad, because I love Cage. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Kamakaze22]

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Nicolas Cage and before the flames start, here is the reasoning. A movie can be good or bad but it will NEVER be his fault.

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I don't think you understand the theme of this thread. It's not whether an actor had a bad performance, it's whether he was in a bad movie. So Nicholas Cage loses out for Gone in 60 Seconds and Conair, I think we can agree on this.

Now as a secondary argument, I think Nicholas Cage is terrible in almost everything he does. You obviously like him, let's leave it at that.

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I do understand and I acknowledge I do have a problem. I don't know why I like Nicolas Cage I just do. For some reason he seems to be his own genre like comedy, horror, drama, Nicolas Cage moive, romance, period piece...you get the idea. Anyway, aside from Death To Smoochy (which I enjoyed alot) my vote goes to Edward Norton.

Justin

[Lazy Meatball]

on Edward Norton, even if you throw out Death to Smootchy (which you really can't) That DeNiro movie "The Score" had glaring holes in it, and I'll admit I know nothing about "Keeping the Faith" but I'm highly skeptical of Ben Stiller romantic comedies with religion as a theme.

[Kamakaze22]

I never saw the Score but I had forgotten about it. I liked Keeping The Faith but I think it was mainly for Edward Norton. This is an impossible task. Good and bad are both too subjective. We need a definite meaning for the two and then make this a poll.

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Steve McQueen?

you really have to find a young actor who died quite early in his career
If youve done more than 10-12 films..one of them will be viewed as "bad" in most peoples eyes.

[Lazy Meatball]

I thought about Steve McQueen, but I don't know enough about his work in the fifties, he was in about 10 films unrecognizeable to anyone under 45. The only one I've heard of was "The Blob," was that any good?

[SammyKid11]

This is a really fun topic...but I have to agree with an above poster and say that it's far too vague to have any real meaning. TONS of the movies that have been listed (Day After Tomorrow, ConAir, Gone in 60 Seconds all come to mind), while they're nowhere near Oscar contention, are not what I would call "bad" movies. They're movies that were never INTENDED to be serious films with stellar writing, acting, directing. They're movies that were intended to be cheap thrills, and they in one way or another accomplished those goals.

For me, a bad movie is one that goes for something yet fails MISERABLY at it (I tend to be a fairly lax judge of films...so for me, when a movie only somewhat misses its mark, a la "Signs," I call that movie Mediocre, not BAD) . "Alexander" and "Timeline" both come to mind as movies that TOTALLY miss what they were aiming for, and therefore are what I'd call BAD movies.

A lot of what you guys are naming (Payback, Devil's Advocate, Dogma, The Cable Guy - though I'm not a fan, Fallen, Air Force One, What Women Want, A River Runs Through It, Armageddon, Legends of the Fall, The Negotiator, Vanilla Sky, Meet The Parents)...I don't find these to be "bad" movies. Maybe many of them are movies some of you didn't enjoy...and maybe many of them are movies that didn't QUITE hit what they were aiming at...but they aren't movies that objectively SUCK...they're movies that for many people are enjoyable, for many people aren't enjoyable, and for many people are meh.

BAD movies are Battlefield Earth, Gigli, Down To You, Spy Kids, Virtuosity, She-Devil, War of the Worlds, Turner & Hooch, Blues Brothers 2000, etc. These are movies that compLETELY missed what they were going for.

If you're looking for an actor that's never been in an average, mediocre, run-of-the-mill, ho-hum film...that search will be in vain once any actor has made more than 10 real movies. But if you're looking for actors that have never made any real STINKERS, I think they're out there (and maybe some of them have been named already).

Am I willing to think very hard about it at the moment? No. But I think they exist...I just think the definition of "bad" movies has to be closed down a little so as not to include every movie that anyone here didn't personally enjoy.

[Kamakaze22]

With this in mind I nominate Bruce Campbell. I don't believe he's ever been in a movie that wasn't what it was trying to be.