Paradise Poker chairman arrested in US

[arcticfox]

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I believe that both BoS and SportingBet will accept sports-bets directly over the phone.
I'm not positive about that, but if so then perhaps THAT is the bigger reason why these guys were detained.


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Stars has no sportsbook
fulltilt has no sportsbook
party's sportsbook (moneybookers) does not take bets from US customers.
UB has no sportsbook

I think microbob's post should be stuck at the top of the forum.

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Hmmm, whilst the areests so far have related to sportsbooks which the prosecutors think they are on safer ground over, the DoJ has said that online poker is illegal too so I wouldn't sticky this as a way of showing that online poker is safe as it clearly isn't.

Why do you think that when Party released its Interim results today that it specifically cites the amount of new customers from non-US countries? Its because it wants the US risk discount taken away from its share price sooner rather than later, if Party could have 100% non-US players with the same revenue it would go for it.

[Jurollo]

Cashed out a fairly good sized amount today and got it in 7 hours.
~Justin

[Poker_Hoar]

You can get to central america a number of additional ways through Havana, Bogota, and Caracas.

[pokerpunchout]

These guys should stay the hell away from the U.S.S.R....er I mean the U.S.A.

If I a chairman or on the board for one of these larger companies I would not be booking flights or lay-overs here any time in the near future if ever.

[Capitola]

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You can get to central america a number of additional ways through Havana, Bogota, and Caracas.

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Wow, would you rather stop over in a country run by a pseudo-communist dictator, a left-wing loonie or battling drug cartels?

Kind of sad that the most dangerous choice is a layover in the USA.

[$Robbed$]

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I tried to buy a can of beer at a regular store in Plano, TX and was told I couldn't because although I could prove my age, I didn't have a club membership [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Yea I was refused once for having an out-of-state DL. I put up a bit of a bitch fit and when they refused...the lady behind me told them they were f*cking retarded and purchased it for me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Edited to replace a word I can't spell with one I can

[Uglyowl]

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Why do you think that when Party released its Interim results today that it specifically cites the amount of new customers from non-US countries?

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Regardless of the legal environment, diversification is a good thing for pretty much any business.

[EricFlyingMidget]

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"Well since we can't catch Osama Bin Laden the govt. will just work on catching poker players instead. God the US is the worst funking country in the civilized world. Pathetic."


They have caught/killed Bin Laden already but will never reveal it. Bush needs him as his terro boogeyman. Btw, they have killed the `10 million #2 guys in Al Queda now by my count.

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"Btw, they have killed the `10 million #2 guys in Al Queda now by my count."
I'm half joking about this quote. About the first part, check out 911truth.org, http://www.911blogger.com, scholars for 911 truth. Also see 300 billion spent on the Iraq war for no good reason.



can you provide evidence of this?

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[ckmj23]

Is it really necessary to withdraw funds at this point?

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Obviously I don't agree with arresting the guy - but this isn't using "war on terror intelligence." People were arrested in this fashion before 9/11 and there is no reason that would change.

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According to press reports after David Carruthers was arrested, U.S. authorities used an anti-terror agreement with the EU that provides airline manifests that can be screened for potential terrorists to identify Mr. Carruthers as a passenger on a U.S. bound flight. Apparently that is what happened here as well.

In previous news reports on the Carruthers case, U.S. authorities also indicated that a recent anti-terror extradition treaty with the UK could be used to charge gaming execs in abstentia and then demand their extradition to the U.S.

The prosecutor in the Carruthers case also said that she believed the large unregulated amount of cash flowing out of the U.S. to gaming sites was being used by terrorists to plan attacks on the U.S.

Very clearly the crackdown on internet gambling is considered by the U.S. government to be part of the War on Terror.

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Did you make this up or can you provide links? I don't care either way but don't be blowin smoke if there aint no fire.

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None of it is made up, but off the top of my head I do not have the links. Do a search of news articles on Google or Yahoo on David Carruthers or the prosecutor and you will find these items peppered throughout. I believe the speculation on extradition came from UK newspapers such as the Guardian.

Whether the US government actually considers this part of the War on Terror is speculation. The prosecutor in the case and members of Congress have alluded to the possibility of gaming sites being used to launder drug money and fund terrorism, but I don't think they have any evidence of this. The latest Bloomberg story also states that unnamed U.S. officials believe the websites to be selling drugs as well, but that sounds like a possible misquote to me.

The point here is that U.S. officials are either very ignorant of what on-line gaming is about (or I'm very naive) or they are making up a lot of crap to incite public opinion against it. My ultimate fear is that the U.S. will eventually use anti-terrorism laws against a wide range of activities it does not like.

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i asked you for the links, you do the search. or don't post bs off the top of your head.