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#81
08-22-2006, 12:58 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social mark
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and inequality clearly tends to increase crime rates as well. [/ QUOTE ] What I am talking about here is inequality in overall income and asset ownership is what I am talking about here. The other types of inequality you are talking about may be harmful or objectionable as well; I've just been persuaded by studies that the above types of inequality have a tendency to increases crime rates. 
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#82
08-22-2006, 01:00 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social market
No.
Sometimes they do and sometimes they do not. A lot of "3rd world" countries are "linked" to the largest economies in the world, and they haven't been growing at all.
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#83
08-22-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social mark
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Is it catching up in % or by actual $? If i make 25,000 to your 50,000 one year, and 51,000 to your 100,000 the next, have i really "caught up"? [/ QUOTE ] You haven't caught up, but my claim was: [ QUOTE ] I know...but since France started its social democracy it Has been gaining ground on the U.S. [/ QUOTE ] And you have gained a tiny bit of ground in the example.
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#84
08-22-2006, 01:05 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social mark
Maybe the common definition of "job security" is faulty then...And we need a new one.
You have to keep in mind, however, that people in the U.S. who lose their job due to firing (or "downsizing") get hired for their next job at a job that pays less, with less benefits and prestige far more often then they get a "better" job. So if we are changing around definitions to make them more accurate on some level, then quality of the job one can get upon being dismissed by an employer has to be part of "job security" as well.
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#85
08-22-2006, 01:13 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social mark
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An "other regarding crime" is a crime that primarily effects someone other than the "criminal", while a "self-regarding crime" is a "crime" against oneself e.g. seat belt laws or laws against marijuana. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a tangent, how do you feel about "self-regarding crime"? Are there any that you support? [/ QUOTE ] There are not any that I can think of that I support for adults. I'm fine with seatbelt laws for children. If there were any seemingly self-regarding crimes for adults I would support, it would be because they weren't really self-regarding. For example, assume heroin use causes violent crime AND assume that the drug war was a A) an effective cure AND B) that it was a cure that was not worse than the disease. Then I would support a heroin ban. I'm thinking of making an OP about an example of one of these "seemingly self-regarding crime that maybe is not" that has been on my mind lately.
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#86
08-22-2006, 03:20 PM
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Re: France\'s social market vs. the U.S.\'s libertarian/less social market
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No. Sometimes they do and sometimes they do not. A lot of "3rd world" countries are "linked" to the largest economies in the world, and they haven't been growing at all. [/ QUOTE ] Two countries that have comparable levels of sophistication/wealth during a period of globalisation? chez
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