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Old 08-16-2006, 04:18 PM
Eaglebauer Eaglebauer is offline
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Typing fast is important because many 1L exams are graded not only on content but on length. Just the way it is.

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You'll get points for every point you hit. If you ramble on without hitting any new points, you'll get s h i t.

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As I'm sure you know, your 2L summer job is based completely on 1L grades. Since most people at top schools end up working for their 2L summer firm, only 1L grades matter at all for your job, period.

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While maybe true for some, pretty optimistic of you. I graduated from a top 25 law school, and am working for a big firm that I never worked for during law school.

Also, you sound like an a$$hole trying to tell established lawyers and people who have already been there "how it is".

... yeah, you'll fit right in, unfortunately. Have fun.
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Old 08-16-2006, 05:06 PM
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developing content or understanding all facets of a question

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Wouldn't all of that be included in the ability to write well? Oh yes it would.

Where did you go to law school?
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Old 08-16-2006, 05:19 PM
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developing content or understanding all facets of a question

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Wouldn't all of that be included in the ability to write well? Oh yes it would.


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LOL.

Not really.
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Old 08-16-2006, 05:24 PM
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developing content or understanding all facets of a question [ QUOTE ]
Wouldn't all of that be included in the ability to write well?

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The first part probably (though I thought your emphasis was on writing well WITHOUT EDITING), the second part not necessarily.

By coupling fast typing with writing well without editing you left the distinct impression (at least with me) that you were more concerned with finishing quickly (or with high quantity) than understanding.

Typing fast is, simply, a ridiculous assertion for a top skill entering law school. If you disagree, I would suggest taking many typing tutorials over the summer. Your grades will show the hard work that you've done.

For those who want ideas other than typing tests, just a few off the top of my head:
* Take a class on improving your reading speed. It may sound counter-intuitive, but with faster reading comes greater reading comprehension (your mind wanders less because you are keeping it occupied.)
* Read a book on formal logic/rhetoric.
* Look up how to brief a case and practice with a couple
* Read a book discussing "classic" cases.
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:15 PM
wstaffor wstaffor is offline
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Default Re: Whose starting law school in the fall?

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Typing fast is important because many 1L exams are graded not only on content but on length. Just the way it is.

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You'll get points for every point you hit. If you ramble on without hitting any new points, you'll get s h i t.

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I know specific professors who give points for each new page in addition to points for hitting points. Obviously they are worth much less, but at a school like mine every little bit helps.
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As I'm sure you know, your 2L summer job is based completely on 1L grades. Since most people at top schools end up working for their 2L summer firm, only 1L grades matter at all for your job, period.

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While maybe true for some, pretty optimistic of you. I graduated from a top 25 law school, and am working for a big firm that I never worked for during law school.

Also, you sound like an a$$hole trying to tell established lawyers and people who have already been there "how it is".

... yeah, you'll fit right in, unfortunately. Have fun.

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I'm not trying to tell people how it is. I am relaying information I've been told by friends that I trust at my law school and schools comparable to mine. Obviously reading comprehension and the ability to form a coherent argument are more important than something like typing speed, but at a school like mine everyone has these qualities in spades. The areas where I can get a leg up are in the ability to write well quickly and extensively.

You throw top 25 around like that is going to impress me, or that it gives you some divine knowledge. Sorry, but my school is 'ranked' quite a bit higher than yours, I'm sure...but that doesn't mean [censored]. My points about typing fast and writing well are both true, and both important.
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Whose starting law school in the fall?

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Typing fast is, simply, a ridiculous assertion for a top skill entering law school. If you disagree, I would suggest taking many typing tutorials over the summer. Your grades will show the hard work that you've done.

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You're entitled to your opinion but I have a handful of friends who we're 1Ls last year at top 10 law schools, and the common thing all of them have told me is that they wished they could type faster. Often they weren't able to get everything in their finals that they wanted to just because they could only knock out 8 or 9 pages in 3 hrs instead of 11 or 12.
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:25 PM
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You're entitled to your opinion but I have a handful of friends who we're 1Ls last year at top 10 law schools, and the common thing all of them have told me is that they wished they could type faster

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And that's what makes it a top 2 skill prior to entering law school??? Seriously?

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Often they weren't able to get everything in their finals that they wanted to just because they could only knock out 8 or 9 pages in 3 hrs instead of 11 or 12.

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I would suspect that typing speed is less of the issue here than succinct writing. When people can't clarify their thoughts succinctly, they tend to think that they can make up for it in number of words. They are wrong.
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:33 PM
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You throw top 25 around like that is going to impress me, or that it gives you some divine knowledge.

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LOL. I'm not throwing anything around trying to impress anyone.

That's obviously how *your* brain is working, though. Jesus, what a douche you already are.

As far as the rest-- typing speed means [censored]. (who the f can't type fast this day and age anyway?). "Writing ability" means [censored]. Some of the best legal analysts I know have horrible "writing ability" in the traditional sense. FFS you could bullet-point your final exam and get better grades than the poet-laureate sitting next to you who can't issue spot and analyze as well as you.

It's indeed amusing watching some not-even-1L-yet trying to tell everyone how it is based on his vast experience.

Keep stroking yourself to your make-believe "edge" you have going in, and enjoy dropping your nuts into the 1L meat grinder, meat. Tata :-)
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:03 PM
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I think you are going to like it at Penn. GL.
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:08 PM
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I think you are going to like it at Penn. GL.

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haha, seriously. this guy will fit in great at law school.
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