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#81
07-02-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: Top 20 Soccer Players
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ronaldinho not remotely close. [/ QUOTE ] You dont watch too much football, right? [/ QUOTE ] He has been a great club player for 3-4 years now, with mixed results in internationals. Putting him anywhere near the top 20 all time right now is ridiculous. Check back in about 6-8 years and we will see then. [/ QUOTE ] Fair point. I think he has the potential for the Maradona Pele league. [/ QUOTE ] I donīt, when Maradona was in his prime and had a tough game and his team wasnīt playing well he would get the ball, go past the other team defense (like against England and Belgium in 86) and score. Ronaldinho never did that in this WC, he disappeared, like he kind of disapeared (had 3 good games) when he was Brazilīs hope in 02 (since nobody knew what to expect of Ronaldo coming from a almost carrer ending injury, and Rivaldo was heavily criticized in the Brazilian Team), also, he disapeared in UCL Final. Top Notch Players donīt disappear that much. Ronaldinho is very very good, but i think he is a bit overrated, he has his play easen because Barcelona has a great midfield with Van Bommel, Xavi, Deco and his style is really nice to watch so people talk about him like he is this generation Maradona...He is not in the same league as Zidane, as we could see yesterday very well, too bad he has only 2 more games. 
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#82
07-03-2006, 11:05 AM
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Re: Top 20 Soccer Players
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[I donīt, when Maradona was in his prime and had a tough game and his team wasnīt playing well he would get the ball, go past the other team defense (like against England and Belgium in 86) and score. Ronaldinho never did that in this WC, he disappeared, like he kind of disapeared (had 3 good games) when he was Brazilīs hope in 02 (since nobody knew what to expect of Ronaldo coming from a almost carrer ending injury, and Rivaldo was heavily criticized in the Brazilian Team), also, he disapeared in UCL Final. Top Notch Players donīt disappear that much. [/ QUOTE ] That`s true. But he was the one to make the difference in almost every UCL game before the final as far as I can remember. I did not follow the competition as closely as I did in the years before though.
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#84
07-03-2006, 11:31 AM
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The Galloping Major
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I can't believe you all forgot ... Ferenc Puskas. [/ QUOTE ]Puskas in the early 1970s was the manager of Panathinaikos of Greece. There's this story by people who swore they saw it when the team trained. Puskas, before everyone hit the showers, would sometimes place the ball just outside the penalty area and challenge the players to kick it to the horizontal goal post. Many tried and were hitting the post once every 10 or 20 tries or so, but Puskas was batting close to .500. Puskas was a lot overweight by then but the left foot was still something else. 
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#85
07-03-2006, 11:51 AM
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Re: Top 20 Soccer Players
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I Think Zidane is the only one, with Ronaldo maybe crackin the top 20. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. What do you guys think about Van Nistelrooy, given his unparalleled goal scoring record in the Premiership? Certainly not in the top 20 players of all-time; where would you stick him in the top 20 strikers?
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#86
07-03-2006, 12:32 PM
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Re: Top 20 Soccer Players
If it's all time:
Ronaldo - because he is the all time world cup scorer now Zidane - agreed Oliver Kahn (2nd german goalkeeper) - because he is among the best goalkeepers I can think of and I guess such a list would be by position ?
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#88
07-03-2006, 07:08 PM
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Re: Top 20 Soccer Players
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If it's all time: Ronaldo - because he is the all time world cup scorer now Zidane - agreed Oliver Kahn (2nd german goalkeeper) - because he is among the best goalkeepers I can think of and I guess such a list would be by position ? [/ QUOTE ] If we are looking for a goalie it should be Zoff (Schmeichel has to be considered too). 
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