Alan Goerhing

[Smoothcall]

Dids,

I wouldnt have continuee to answer it if he didnt dodge the question. He said he didn't say his play was better than hellmuths nd more complex and it makes him want to puke to compare hellmuths style to his. He said it did you see it? Then he says he didnt say it? Ok for now on i will only ask once and if he doesnt want to admit it i'll let him off the hook. But thats far from trolling. I'm not trolling dids. He answered me. If he didnt answer if the first place i wouldnt have ASKED agian but he answered ans said he didnt say it which was untrue imo. But i apologize if you took it as trolling. Lets start over and i'll try to be a good poster if you'll try not to be biased agaisnt me and cut me some slack like you do other posters. I wasnt trying to fight with him. I was respectful and complimented him on having better manners than both danial n and phil h. i just disagree he's superior to hellmuth is all. Why do i always come out looking like the bad guy when all i do is stick to the facts and post only facts. But again sorry and i'll try to adhere to what you want (no sarcasm)

[CrayZee]

Yeah, he answered your questions and all, but you did seem pretty abrasive about it. Must be an internet thing.

[wisehandpoker]

Smooth, people in authority generally don't like to have that authority questioned, and most of the posters here want to keep those authorities around. I think you just need to tone it down a bit.

[John Shiznit]

Well it would be nice to see a database of every player performance for the WSOP and WPT for the last 4 years.
The best results would likely be
Tuan Le
Grinder
Gohring
Daniel N.
Ivey
Lingren?
Paul Phillips?
raymer?

The sample size is fairly small, but guys who people knew long before the WPT like ivey and daniel have been able to win and raymer has had some very high finishes in big field events since his WSOP win, which seem very statiscally unlikely(on luck alone).

Hellmuth has actually performed ok especially if you count the Heads up win but not as well as these guys have.


I know the people here massively hate on Tuan Le's play.

[glen]

you have to be the most annoying person ever. . . .

[wisehandpoker]

[ QUOTE ]
Well it would be nice to see a database of every player performance for the WSOP and WPT for the last 4 years.
The best results would likely be
Tuan Le
Grinder
Gohring
Daniel N.
Ivey
Lingren?
Paul Phillips?
raymer?

The sample size is fairly small, but guys who people knew long before the WPT like ivey and daniel have been able to win and raymer has had some very high finishes in big field events since his WSOP win, which seem very statiscally unlikely(on luck alone).

Hellmuth has actually performed ok especially if you count the Heads up win but not as well as these guys have.


I know the people here massively hate on Tuan Le's play.

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multiple WPT wins:

Hansen
Negreanu
Lindgren
Gordon
Ros Rose
Lederer
Le
Goehring
Grinder

Tuan was taught by Barry Greenstein, but his reportedly loose play in the first three rounds of a tournament don't fit that mold.

[Smoothcall]

which authority are we referring to? And why do we want to keep them around? And why do i need to tone down a bit? i did nothing wrong. Just becasue people dont like semi-celebrities questioned doesnt mean i'm worng to do so. That is your problem not mine. I am cool. If you be cool we weill get along fine. I dont know why so many feel they need to tell me how i should post. Especially you when you have no authority.

[RussianBear]

[ QUOTE ]
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[Number27]

He said he wanted to puke because he had heard it so much. Not because Hellmuth's style made him want to puke. For instance if someone kept coming up to you and going, "You play like Player X" you'd probably get tired of hearing it.

As for whether he thinks he's better than Hellmuth at deep stack play who cares? It's an opinion, not a fact. What do you possibly hope to gain by badgering him about it?

How is he going to "back it up"? No one is saying you have to be deferential, they're just saying you keep repeatedly asking the same question and the answer isn't changing.

[wisehandpoker]

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which authority are we referring to? And why do we want to keep them around? And why do i need to tone down a bit? i did nothing wrong. Just becasue people dont like semi-celebrities questioned doesnt mean i'm worng to do so. That is your problem not mine. I am cool. If you be cool we weill get along fine. I dont know why so many feel they need to tell me how i should post. Especially you when you have no authority.

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The authority we're referring to is Alan, the guy with 2 WPT wins and a WSOP main event 2nd place finish. We want to keep him around to benefit from his wisdom and experience. You need to tone it down a bit because the attitude you employ has obviously alienated multiple posters of the authoritative variety, a fact a lot of people here don't like. The problem is yours because you're going to have to deal with being suspended from the site if you continue to agitate this way. We're trying to tell you how to post because the way you do so now is obviously alienating you and upsetting the aformentioned authorities the rest of us would like to see here. I never said anything about my having authority, i was just trying to be helpful in a moment of weakness.

Your reply comes off as defensive and agitated when my post was just trying to explain things in as unthreatening a way as I could word. Maybe that's why you 'come off as the bad guy'. I'm going to give up and pretend I didn't try now.