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Old 04-15-2007, 06:08 PM
Yoko Ono Yoko Ono is offline
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Chocolate Rabbit, it has nothing to do with whether those arguments are correct or logically sound, it has everything to do with what kind of conclusions that wolves will come to (the right ones) and the kind of conclusions villagers will come to.

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But villagers would come to those conclusions. The one about the vote buyer is self evident.

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The thing is, it isn't self-evident. A ton of villagers didn't come to that conclusion, which makes them villagers. Villagers are stupid.

And hey, if you think grindhouse might be JaredL, why not vote him off with me?
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:09 PM
T. Bradshaw T. Bradshaw is offline
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On that note, I am also not voting you any time soon as I am changing my m]ind on you. So come vote akimbo with me.

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wouldnt you like to hear pope respond to his bandwagon first with something other than a vote for grindhouse?

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Good luck with that.

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well wouldnt a villager say something? If you are a villager and you walk in and there are 8 votes on you and not more than 2 votes on anyone else you would just come in, vote for someone with 2 votes and leave? What villager does this? Seriously
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:09 PM
Chocolate Rabbit Chocolate Rabbit is offline
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We might as well all stfu & wait until the seers get all their peeks in then, shouldn't we? Oh wait, no we shouldn't. We win by lynching wolves. We don't win until they're all dead. It's pretty simple

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We could do that and win. It's obviously not optimal, but the thing is, it doesn't really matter how many wolves we lynch until 1-X villagers are cleared, as long as we can clear 1-X villagers.

Admittedly, there are two night kills in the game, which makes 1-X higher than it should be, but once one of those night kills is eliminated, 1-X just plain wins.

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Go find the idiot to english translator so the rest of us understand wtf you're talking about.

Any plan that includes the concept "all power villagers should jsut come out ZOMG" is stupid, period.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:11 PM
TheFreshPrince TheFreshPrince is offline
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I still like my small list. I'll be voting Yoko tomorrow assuming Pope gets lynched today. Freetokyonow, however, has sounded a touch more villagery, though not enough to make me think he's actually pro-village yet.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:11 PM
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On that note, I am also not voting you any time soon as I am changing my m]ind on you. So come vote akimbo with me.

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wouldnt you like to hear pope respond to his bandwagon first with something other than a vote for grindhouse?

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Good luck with that.

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well wouldnt a villager say something? If you are a villager and you walk in and there are 8 votes on you and not more than 2 votes on anyone else you would just come in, vote for someone with 2 votes and leave? What villager does this? Seriously

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I'm not saying a villager wouldn't. I just said good luck with getting a response.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:13 PM
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I still like my small list. I'll be voting Yoko tomorrow assuming Pope gets lynched today. Freetokyonow, however, has sounded a touch more villagery, though not enough to make me think he's actually pro-village yet.

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What's funny, is I have pretty much disagreed with every single thing you've said, and yet I'm far from convinced you're a wolf.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:13 PM
T. Bradshaw T. Bradshaw is offline
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On that note, I am also not voting you any time soon as I am changing my m]ind on you. So come vote akimbo with me.

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wouldnt you like to hear pope respond to his bandwagon first with something other than a vote for grindhouse?

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Good luck with that.

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well wouldnt a villager say something? If you are a villager and you walk in and there are 8 votes on you and not more than 2 votes on anyone else you would just come in, vote for someone with 2 votes and leave? What villager does this? Seriously

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I'm not saying a villager wouldn't. I just said good luck with getting a response.

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Do you think No response from pope makes pope more likely to be a villager or a wolf
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:15 PM
Yoko Ono Yoko Ono is offline
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It assumes that sometime in the future, more than half the village will be power villagers and seer peeked villagers. It also assumes kyro is dead/converted.

That will be a lock win. That is an easy lock win. It doesn't matter how many wolves are lynched when this happens (though obviously, lynching wolves is good).

Yes, in most WW games, you don't win by clearing x villagers, but those are games that are balanced.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:15 PM
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Villager, actually. Especially a vanillager.
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Old 04-15-2007, 06:15 PM
John von Neumann John von Neumann is offline
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The only thing I'm not grasping in Yoko's plan is, uh, if we lynch vanillagers every day while the wolves eat seers and recently confirmed power villagers every night, how exactly do we win?

If there was a rash of roleclaims right now we'd have no reason to believe at least half of them. Tokyo was a special case, because the modkill provision gave him a way to prove he was telling the truth.

Yoko: you posted a theory about how lynching grindhouse would tell us something about TJ and jimbob. Conversely, do you think that lynching TJ or jimbob would tell us anything about grindhouse? Not saying you need to change your vote right this minute, just asking.
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