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Old 10-27-2007, 09:48 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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if I were on the jury I would not have enough evidence to in good conscience find him guilty. However I do not care for how he is handling it and his attitude toward Druff. My jury is still out on Mark, however I wouldn't play him online either. The Raw Vegas interview makes me ill, and he is acting like a guilty man, however I wouldn't hang him just yet because I certainly could be wrong and its not fair to hang someone just based on feel or opinion.

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That's fair.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:00 PM
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Okay, it's been pretty well-documented that certain accounts on AP have been "taken over" for periods of time. Whether they were used to cheat or for some other reason I can't figure out, I'm not sure. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just believe me when I say that I'm 100% sure it has happened.

But has anyone considered that maybe someone else was using Mark's account without his permission?

That would explain the whole "pulling out the secret weapon one time" theory. It might also explain the session that dean has been wondering about (his own v Seif).

I'm just throwing the idea out there... pure speculation.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure the anti-Seif sentiment here has reached a point where even if the HHs were released and showed him to be innocent, most people would believe they were doctored and still try to crucify him. Is that fair to Seif? No, but I guess that's what he gets for pissing off so many people in the past.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure the anti-Seif sentiment here has reached a point where even if the HHs were released and showed him to be innocent, most people would believe they were doctored and still try to crucify him. Is that fair to Seif? No, but I guess that's what he gets for pissing off so many people in the past.

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Of course they'd be doctored... LDO
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:07 PM
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But has anyone considered that maybe someone else was using Mark's account without his permission?


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You mean other than me, about 20 posts ago? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I have a theory that no one ever listens to me on this site, but subliminally I get through. This would be a positive data point towards that.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:07 PM
ibluffoldladies ibluffoldladies is offline
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But has anyone considered that maybe someone else was using Mark's account without his permission?


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Why would you start throwing out the most unlikely scenario's Nat?
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:11 PM
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Seif does come acrosss as shady and temperamentel as well as acting like a tough guy, I just think he would have played more if he was cheating.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Just got paid.

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Okay, it's been pretty well-documented that certain accounts on AP have been "taken over" for periods of time. Whether they were used to cheat or for some other reason I can't figure out, I'm not sure. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just believe me when I say that I'm 100% sure it has happened.

But has anyone considered that maybe someone else was using Mark's account without his permission?

That would explain the whole "pulling out the secret weapon one time" theory. It might also explain the session that dean has been wondering about (his own v Seif).

I'm just throwing the idea out there... pure speculation.

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I really wasn't sure about whether he cheated......he won a ridic amount off me......I had a VERY brief look at the hhs and at first glance he just ran real hot, Im happy to send you the hhs.

Everyone note that I never made any public accusations against him and just mentioned this to nat/serge on IM. Im fairly confident nothing dodgy happened between him and me. His session v. Stuckin certain warrants lots of suspicion but there isn't enough to label him guilty.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:18 PM
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But has anyone considered that maybe someone else was using Mark's account without his permission?


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Why would you start throwing out the most unlikely scenario's Nat?

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If I recall correctly it was very clear (if we believe stucking) that the opponents had a fairly long history and Seif was on tilt, berating in chat and on message boards, etc. So unless somebody was very good at imitating his chat as well, it was him. Plus he's never trotted this idea out in his own defense.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:36 PM
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n82, I agree with pineapple. If you read the stickinpigh thread, he blew [censored] at the guy and picked up right where he left off the next session.
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