Official May Thread: General [censored] Thread

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Your avatars make it harder to remember who I'm laughing at and who I'm agreeing with.

Just saying [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mark

[ImsaKidd]

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In any case, those calculators are completely worthless since they don't address hand ranges.

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um, how could you say that about Sklansky bucks vs actual buck in all-in pots?

It is mathematically proven that Sklansky bucks earned are more likely going to be closer to your actual earn than actual bucks

So 'completely worthless' seems a bit much

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You have to factor in Money won without showdown (which phils program does). Lots of nit-tags posted graphs with nice looking sklansky (red) lines, but their expected winnings were 0 cause they fold too much.

Anyone posting a graph should post the "Expected Total Winnings (ETW-teal)" lines on the graphs.

And whoever asked, I am +net run over 70k hands or so.

[ahnuld]

can you guys plz change your avatars if your going to dargue plz.

[HP]

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Anyone posting a graph should post the "Expected Total Winnings (ETW-teal)" lines on the graphs.

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yeah I was referring to that. I'm not defending any other metric (yet)

edit: wait now I'm not so sure wtf these lines represent. anyway, I was talking about just the metric where only when you are all in you get sklansky bucks

[soah]

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No. You get it in with 80% equity. You win 90% of the times. You have a positive number. That's what soah was talking about.

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not quite

if people call my raises with whatever drawing hands, and never flop anything, then I'm running hot. None of these pots may be significant, but all these small pots add up, and I deserve to occasionally run into overpair vs set etc so when it doesn't happen, then I consider myself fortunate

on the other hand, if I am constantly missing my sets, then I'd say I'm running cold

none of these hands get shown down so they get overlooked most of the time... but whenever I seem to be running well, it involves me rarely losing a big pot, regardless of what my equity was at any point in the hand

or to look at it another way, getting AA vs KK and it holding up is running hot in exactly the same sense as getting KK vs AA and sucking out, if you assume the money all goes in preflop regardless of who has each hand. equity calculators may tell you that one is better than the other, but the reality is that random fate determined that one of you was going to win a big pot right there, and the exact method by which it happened is really pretty meaningless.

[Irish Mafia]

The games are hard enough as is. I'm running worse than the devil himself... I honestly just don't know how much longer I can take this. This is about the 10th time in the last 2 days. This one i'm only 180+bb's deep - and we get it on the turn... what can I say - i'm having trouble breathing

Full Tilt Poker Game #2446308260: Table Sunking (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:30:37 ET - 2007/05/17
Seat 1: TaiwanStyle ($1,279)
Seat 2: MadHatter48 ($1,107)
Seat 3: JediPokerTrix ($1,819)
Seat 4: gopheresque ($970)
Seat 5: PoopInToilet ($3,218.50)
Seat 6: Kinetica ($1,415.50)
MadHatter48 posts the small blind of $5
JediPokerTrix posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JediPokerTrix [7h 7s]
gopheresque has 15 seconds left to act
gopheresque is sitting out
gopheresque has timed out
gopheresque folds
PoopInToilet raises to $35
Kinetica folds
TaiwanStyle folds
MadHatter48 folds
JediPokerTrix calls $25
*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 2h]
JediPokerTrix checks
PoopInToilet bets $55
JediPokerTrix raises to $240
PoopInToilet calls $185
*** TURN *** [6c 7c 2h] [8d]
JediPokerTrix bets $400
PoopInToilet raises to $2,943.50, and is all in
JediPokerTrix calls $1,144, and is all in
PoopInToilet shows [As Ac]
JediPokerTrix shows [7h 7s]
Uncalled bet of $1,399.50 returned to PoopInToilet
*** RIVER *** [6c 7c 2h 8d] [Ah]
PoopInToilet shows three of a kind, Aces
gopheresque has returned
JediPokerTrix shows three of a kind, Sevens
PoopInToilet wins the pot ($3,640) with three of a kind, Aces
JediPokerTrix is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3,643 | Rake $3
Board: [6c 7c 2h 8d Ah]
Seat 1: TaiwanStyle (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: MadHatter48 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: JediPokerTrix (big blind) showed [7h 7s] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 4: gopheresque didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: PoopInToilet showed [As Ac] and won ($3,640) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: Kinetica didn't bet (folded)

[TheWorstPlayer]

Pretty sure the only line to take in this hand is the one I took on FTP. Tilt cashout and move to Stars. Not like I want you at Stars... but FTP is so rigged it's a joke.

[aislephive]

Sometimes I can't tell if some people are really dumb enough to believe "xxxx" site is rigged or they're just kidding.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Sometimes I can't tell if some people are really dumb enough to believe "xxxx" site is rigged or they're just kidding.

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It's rigged. I have never in my life won a single pot there. I have won a lot of money at other sites. Therefore it is rigged.

[dtan05]

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Sometimes I can't tell if some people are really dumb enough to believe "xxxx" site is rigged or they're just kidding.

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I believed bodog was rigged after I got set over setted 3 times in <200 hands [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]