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#811
08-09-2007, 03:19 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
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Redbean's default position for all of these witnesses is that they are not credible, even if they have testified under oath. [/ QUOTE ] Which witnesses testimony have I asserted is not credible? [ QUOTE ] The contradiction is that Redbean then turns around and accepts everything Bonds has said as the absolute gospel, assigning Bonds absolute credibility. [/ QUOTE ] I assign Bonds no credibility. There is a difference between me asserting his words as truth, and me debunking your claim to fact that he admitted under oath to taking steroids when he didn't. Please tell me you see that difference. [ QUOTE ] I can't decide if Redbean is just being blinded by his fan worship of Bonds, or if he's being willfully intellectually dishonest. [/ QUOTE ] It just has to be one of the two, right? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It can't just be that I pointed out that your assertion of "fact" was in reality, not a fact. [ QUOTE ] Either way, I'm fairly amazed that he's convinced anyone that his points are any good. [/ QUOTE ] My only point has been that your assertion that Bonds admitted under oath to taking steroids as fact was indeed false. 
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#814
08-09-2007, 04:01 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
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RedBean, I don't know how you don't get tired of dealing with Drew's insolence. [/ QUOTE ] One can only assume that my recovery time has been somehow enhanced, LDO. Especially considering that it is occuring this late in my career.
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#817
08-09-2007, 04:09 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
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[ QUOTE ] Barry Bonds is black, correct? I think that was in the grand jury testimony somewhere. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but that's not against the rules anymore. [/ QUOTE ] Then why are they slowly being phased out :P
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#818
08-09-2007, 04:14 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
Just a thought: How many teams were around when Ruth played? I realize he didn't play black players, but is this somewhat negated by only playing the very best of the white players?
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#819
08-09-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
Yes, you're definitely correct. However, Aaron is the biggest example of this, since the period of 1947-1968 was when blacks were added into the player pool without expansion. Therefore, this period of time constituted what was probably the toughest era of baseball, in which Aaron played a significant part of his career.
If you go by WARP3 (a statistic that measures the value of a player adjusted for era and park effect), Barry Bonds edges out Babe Ruth by a few points (241.6 Bonds, 237.6 Ruth).
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#820
08-09-2007, 04:32 AM
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Re: Official Barry Bonds Countdown Thread
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I realize he didn't play black players, but is this somewhat negated by only playing the very best of the white players? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you can rephrase this for me, or I'm not reading it right...but are you asking if because Ruth only played against white players, that somehow negates that he didn't play against black players. Surely that can't be what you're saying.
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