Curtains vs PoG

[esad]

One possible line

22..Qd7
23. Rfc1 Rb2
24. Kg1 b6 (so we can then move the Knight)

It's pretty tough at this point to improve our position

We can also try

22..Rec8
23 Rfc1 b6 (even f5)
24. RxR RxR

Or he might 24 Kg1, ?

[TimM]

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The nice thing about Rc6 is it allows Ree6 and Rf6 in the future, which is good. Rc6 also stops him from playing Rfc1 for at least one move, perhaps to play Kg1. If he does play Rfc1, we can just let him capture and take back with the pawn. This closes off the file until he starts to push the Queen side pawns or until we move our queen.

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Rc6 is interesting. He probably just has to go Kg1 (R_c1 is met by Rf6). I'm just not sure where it's going after that.

[TimM]

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22..Rec8
23 Rfc1 b6 (even f5)
24. RxR RxR

Or he might 24 Kg1, ?

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This might be the best we can do. 23...b6 does threaten to trade all the rooks and play Qxd4 (without it he has Be3 and taking on a7). So we get to maintain a rook on his second rank for a while.

[xorbie]

TimM,

Kg1 Nc3
Qxd5 Nxd5
Rfe1

Now several options. Could play it straight, going ...Nxe3. Then if fxe3, ...Rc3 and we win the pawn (he can move his king up but we just get to perpetual check.)

If Rxe3 then ...Rxe3, fxe3 and we play Rc2, leaving him no way to protec both the a and e pawn, and no file to threaten mate with. at this point im not sure what he will play, but we would push up one of the kings pawns to protect mate and allow us to win the pawn. This position requires some looking at because his rook can come down and win two of our pawns.

There is also the "trickier" option:


Kg1 Nc3
Qxd5 Nxd5
Rfe1 Nb4

Then we want to play ...Nc2. If he keeps his rook on the f file (Rf2), then we just take the pawn at d4, his rook is pinned. If he moves his rook off the f file, we just trade knight for bishop and pawn. This would also leave him with a hanging pawn.

He can prevent this by playing Rf2 and Rd1 against Nc2, not sure how to proceed from here, maybe Ra6.

At this point though, that's about the max of my chess ability...

[chuckleslovakian]

Curtains plays 22.Be3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3

Curtains

PoG

[chuckleslovakian]

Voting tied right now...

[TimM]

I voted Rec8 but now it looks kinda lame. Someone vote Rc6!

[BlackSails]

I voted for Rec8 But I like Rc6- f6 idea, keeping pieces on and preparing ...h5-h4 ideas. Our centralization allows us these types of amenities. It's not easy for White to shake the long term moderate pressure, he might try to take over the c file and try to win the queenside pawns. By then, we might have something like the K on h7 ( to avoid checks and potential trades) and both rooks on the 6th rank, with the h pawn on h4, offering reasonable attacking propects

[chuckleslovakian]

PoG plays 22...Rc6

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6

Curtains

PoG

It is now Curtains turn

[curtains]

23.Kg1