"Official" WSOP Event #20: $50,000 H.O.R.S.E.

[Miles Ahead]

We'll have to see if Andy talks about it, but I suspect he just made a good read and decided to put all his money in with the best of it.

He was ahead and something like a 55/45 favorite to win the hand. He probably put Chip on a flush draw and figured Chip was trying to push him off his hand, which was right.

Chip was not pleased to get called there by top pair. That's for sure.

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You're always gambling, unless you have the absolute nuts.

So then the question becomes what edge are you comfortable with for all of your chips. 55/45%? 60/40%? 70%/30%

Does Bloch fold JJ pre-flop if he knows Chip is pushing with AKo? Is it a "bad call" if he doesn't?

I think the length of the session and the fact that Chip just seemed to be playing better small ball poker had a lot to do with it, too.

[BigSoonerFan]

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Reese just doubled up


On a flop of 9s 8d 3d, Reese checks and Bloch bets $120,000. Reese moves all in and Bloch makes the call and shows 9 7s for a pair of nines. Reese turns over Kd 6d for a flush draw. The turn is the 5d, giving Reese his flush. The river is the Kc and Chip Reese has doubled up.

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Wow. Nice call by Andy. WTF???

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Getting his money in as the favorite against a likely flush draw with a chance to end the match right there. Tough call, but he made the right read.

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Bad call.

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Bad call as in he could have been facing a flush draw AND two overcards or something better? Or bad call as in: why risk the tournament as only a slight favorite in the hand at that point?

Does he make the call if Chips flips over his cards?

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Right, especially if he believes that he's the better NLHE player.

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I think the length of the session and the fact that Chip just seemed to be playing better small ball poker had a lot to do with it, too.

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I agree. That, and/or some other information of that type that isn't apparent from just the flop, the stack sizes, and his cards.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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Does Bloch fold JJ pre-flop if he knows Chip is pushing with AKo? Is it a "bad call" if he doesn't?


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Both of them would call quickly. That's why they are sitting there and those who think they can win in poker without making those calls never will get the $50k to play such an event.

[Chuck_D]

Both of them would call quickly. That's why they are sitting there and those who think they can win in poker without making those calls never will get the $50k to play such an event.

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Agreed you need a lot of gamble in you to get to the very top.

[Maple Leafs]

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Does he make the call if Chips flips over his cards?

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He didn't need him to. The cards are all marked, remember?

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Does Bloch fold JJ pre-flop if he knows Chip is pushing with AKo? Is it a "bad call" if he doesn't?


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Both of them would call quickly. That's why they are sitting there and those who think they can win in poker without making those calls never will get the $50k to play such an event.

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Right.

Andy was obviously willing to gamble as the favorite in the hand. He wouldn't be much of a poker player if he didn't know how to push small edges.

6 or 7 hours earlier near the beginning of HU play he made a similar call with top pair (7's), a worthless kicker (2) and a possible flush draw on the board. As it turned out he was only up against an inside straight (+ backdoor flush) draw, which, lucky for Chip, hit. I think in both cases if Chips shows Andy his cards, Andy beats him into the pot, making what some people are calling "bad calls."

And in both cases Chip was not at all happy to get called.

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Damn. I didn't do too bad. I'm in the Full Tilt Fantasy WSOP contest, and in this event I have Doyle and Ivey for triple dollars, T.J. (and Barry Greenstein) for double, and Chip and Dewey for single.

Only problem is, I'm in 13th currently. In 7th sits Andy Bloch, who presumably picked himself for triple. Which means I probably won't be catching him.

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Actually, I didn't do that great. Earning over $6M in fantasy dollars only got me 88th best in that event. I actually lost 10 places on the leaderboard. Some smart dude actually had Chip, Andy and Phil for triple.

[Whitewash]

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He didn't need him to. The cards are all marked, remember?

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Now I understand how Bloch got so deep in this event...