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Old 04-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: how can this NOT be collusion?

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BTW I just made the SavageGamble Comment since so many were illuding (sp) to it, Savage is clean. And is not the same player as dumbanimal

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yes it is. they do all kinds of account switching but afaik more often than not, they are the same person. if they were at the same table then i assume someone else was using dumbanimal. there are not a lot of regualrs in that game, and it helps for people to not know who specifically you are
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:49 PM
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Dear Joshua,

Thank you for contacting us!!!

As you requested, we have reviewed the game in question and everything seems to be correct. However, we will follow up on these players making sure they play following our poker etiquette, rules, and regulations.

Our major concern is to make sure that our customers play in a fair and secure place. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,

Steve,
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:55 PM
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interesting.. you shoudl email back and ask if they can tell you A's hole cards
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:56 PM
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interesting.. you shoudl email back and ask if they can tell you A's hole cards

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yeah i did
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: how can this NOT be collusion?

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im [censored] savagegamble someone told me about this, this is some [censored] get my name out of these post or prove it, ill give my bankroll to anyone that can I dont need to cheat to win so post these supposive hands up, perhaps its some donk he got killed in the game and is just making escuses

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what did you have then
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:01 PM
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standard.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:30 PM
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Default My experience with these two

I'll let you decide if it's fishy:


NYPlayer is at seat 0 with $23383.50.
dumbanimal is at seat 3 with $26521.
piejay is at seat 4 with $14503.50.
hogbird is at seat 5 with $36636.
The button is at seat 3.

piejay posts the small blind of $150.
hogbird posts the big blind of $300.

NYPlayer: Js Jh
dumbanimal: -- --
piejay: -- --
hogbird: -- --

Pre-flop:

NYPlayer raises to $600. dumbanimal re-raises to
$900. piejay folds. hogbird calls. NYPlayer
re-raises to $1200. dumbanimal calls. hogbird
calls.

Flop (board: 9d 9h 4d):

hogbird checks. NYPlayer bets $300. dumbanimal
calls. hogbird calls.

Turn (board: 9d 9h 4d 8s):

hogbird checks. NYPlayer bets $600. dumbanimal
raises to $1200. hogbird re-raises to $1800.
NYPlayer folds. dumbanimal re-raises to $2400.
hogbird calls.

River (board: 9d 9h 4d 8s 9c):

hogbird checks. dumbanimal bets $600. hogbird
calls.



Showdown:

dumbanimal shows Jd Td.
dumbanimal has Jd Td 9d 9h 9c: three nines.
hogbird shows Qh As.
hogbird has Qh As 9d 9h 9c: three nines, ace kicker.


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Old 04-04-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: My experience with these two

the plot thickens....
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: My experience with these two

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I'll let you decide if it's fishy:


NYPlayer is at seat 0 with $23383.50.
dumbanimal is at seat 3 with $26521.
piejay is at seat 4 with $14503.50.
hogbird is at seat 5 with $36636.
The button is at seat 3.

piejay posts the small blind of $150.
hogbird posts the big blind of $300.

NYPlayer: Js Jh
dumbanimal: -- --
piejay: -- --
hogbird: -- --

Pre-flop:

NYPlayer raises to $600. dumbanimal re-raises to
$900. piejay folds. hogbird calls. NYPlayer
re-raises to $1200. dumbanimal calls. hogbird
calls.

Flop (board: 9d 9h 4d):

hogbird checks. NYPlayer bets $300. dumbanimal
calls. hogbird calls.

Turn (board: 9d 9h 4d 8s):

hogbird checks. NYPlayer bets $600. dumbanimal
raises to $1200. hogbird re-raises to $1800.
NYPlayer folds. dumbanimal re-raises to $2400.
hogbird calls.

River (board: 9d 9h 4d 8s 9c):

hogbird checks. dumbanimal bets $600. hogbird
calls.



Showdown:

dumbanimal shows Jd Td.
dumbanimal has Jd Td 9d 9h 9c: three nines.
hogbird shows Qh As.
hogbird has Qh As 9d 9h 9c: three nines, ace kicker.


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this is eerily similar to the other hand
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: My experience with these two

at first glance this would not appear to be collusion because of the showdown. in a casino that would be correct (especially HP where you might actually get killed in the parking lot) but on line the teams are so greedy and can restart if banned so quickly that they brazenly inflate pots to get even more action on thier future graft. they must have been sure there is no way the showdown would break the game.
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