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Old 11-18-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Did Mike M made a mistake with the Kings? (WSOP spoiler)

It's really simple: anyone that thinks he should fold KK here sucks at poker. it really is that simple.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:09 PM
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It's really simple: anyone that thinks he should fold KK here sucks at poker. it really is that simple.

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A genius at work!

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Old 11-18-2005, 04:15 PM
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in addition to AK, we can put QQ in Lazar's re-raising hand range.

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No way he's got A,K.

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Old 11-18-2005, 04:48 PM
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in addition to AK, we can put QQ in Lazar's re-raising hand range.

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No way he's got A,K.

Vince

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How is AK not a possibility? Most players will reraise with AK, and almost all players will reraise with JJ+. Not to mention that Matusow has both of these players heavily covered, he knows that even if he is in the unfortunate spot of being against AA he will still be in a very respectable chip position, and of course he still has a 20 percent shot of sucking out. There is no way Matusow is getting away from this hand, end of story.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:09 PM
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How is AK not a possibility?

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Lazar may not be a great player but he is not going to make a raise that begs for a call against an early raiser with A,K and lots of folk yet to act. The liklihood of that hapenning in and of itself is very small but add the fact that Matasow has K,K and i say no way jose to him having A,K.

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Old 11-18-2005, 05:19 PM
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How is AK not a possibility?

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Lazar may not be a great player but he is not going to make a raise that begs for a call against an early raiser with A,K and lots of folk yet to act. The liklihood of that hapenning in and of itself is very small but add the fact that Matasow has K,K and i say no way jose to him having A,K.

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Lazar re-raised to 5 times the open-raise from Steve D.

That's a significant raise, not one that "begs for a call".
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:27 PM
Vincent Lepore Vincent Lepore is offline
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Danneman made it 400k (or raised 400k) and Lazar made it 1 million (I thought he made it 1.2 mil but was corrected.) So now with antes there is over 1 mil in the pot and Dannemann needs to call 600k an easy call for an UTG raiser.

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Old 11-18-2005, 05:39 PM
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Danneman made it 400k (or raised 400k) and Lazar made it 1 million (I thought he made it 1.2 mil but was corrected.) So now with antes there is over 1 mil in the pot and Dannemann needs to call 600k an easy call for an UTG raiser.

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I'm going by Card Player's live coverage, which had Dannenmann opening for 250K and Lazar re-raising to 1.25M.
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:33 PM
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Danneman made it 400k and Lazzar made it 1 million. If Matasow doesn't raise and everyone behind Lazar folds there is 1.6m in the pot and Danneman must call 6ook. An easy call and looks like Lazar wants a call.

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Old 11-18-2005, 08:22 PM
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Hasan Habib folded KK preflop in WPT foxwoods (and was correct).

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So did Irie. Folding KK preflop is the nuts.
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