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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself...I didn't read the whole thing but it's quite interesting. http://www.cigital.com/papers/downlo...r_gambling.php [/ QUOTE ] Haha, you do realize this hurts your argument? There was a poker site with a vulnerable RNG, and a group of talented but unethical individuals took advantage of it. Now places like Cigital and BMM analyze sites' RNGs to make sure that they aren't vulnerable. [/ QUOTE ] How does it hurt anything? I'm not saying Cigital is crooked, just pokerstars. [/ QUOTE ]\ Well Cigital is a company that makes sure that online poker sites aren't crooked. And it says that PokerStars isn't crooked. So if you don't think Cigital is crooked, then their word should be good enough for you. Correct? |
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[ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself [/ QUOTE ] No, it is not - as the subtitle of the link says. Ah, yes it is. Follow the link... |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself...I didn't read the whole thing but it's quite interesting. http://www.cigital.com/papers/downlo...r_gambling.php [/ QUOTE ] Haha, you do realize this hurts your argument? There was a poker site with a vulnerable RNG, and a group of talented but unethical individuals took advantage of it. Now places like Cigital and BMM analyze sites' RNGs to make sure that they aren't vulnerable. [/ QUOTE ] How does it hurt anything? I'm not saying Cigital is crooked, just pokerstars. [/ QUOTE ]\ Well Cigital is a company that makes sure that online poker sites aren't crooked. And it says that PokerStars isn't crooked. So if you don't think Cigital is crooked, then their word should be good enough for you. Correct? [/ QUOTE ] Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. |
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This is all they could've gave cigital to "test" their rng...they just give them 'a' algorithm.
procedure TDeck.Shuffle; var ctr: Byte; tmp: Byte; random_number: Byte; begin { Fill the deck with unique cards } for ctr := 1 to 52 do Card[ctr] := ctr; { Generate a new seed based on the system clock } randomize; { Randomly rearrange each card } for ctr := 1 to 52 do begin random_number := random(51)+1; tmp := card[random_number]; card[random_number] := card[ctr]; card[ctr] := tmp; end; CurrentCard := 1; JustShuffled := True; end;The shuffling algorithm shown in |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself [/ QUOTE ] No, it is not - as the subtitle of the link says. Ah, yes it is. Follow the link... [/ QUOTE ] you're right... but it was originally published elsewhere. |
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Yep, I'm convinced.
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Ugh, Cigital isn't a company that is out to validate online poker sites. They are for hire like anyone else. Riverstars hired them to evaluate their rng....or better yet it sounds like their algorithm. I have questions, did they test their rng in operation or did pokerstars give them the algorithm they use? So easy to get by this and make this claim. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so, maybe not. Hopefully the reply to your e-mail will tell. BTW an RNG is an algorithm. Question: Back to your donkament bad beats, what's PokerStars' incentive for rigging a tournament hand so that you get sucked out on? |
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This is all they could've gave cigital to "test" their rng...they just give them 'a' algorithm. [/ QUOTE ] no - the algorithm that you quoted is flawed (for the reasons quoted in the cigital article). they could not have given that algorithm to cigital for verificatoin. this is another lie from a lying liar who lies. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is from Cigital itself [/ QUOTE ] No, it is not - as the subtitle of the link says. Ah, yes it is. Follow the link... [/ QUOTE ] you're right... but it was originally published elsewhere. [/ QUOTE ] It was? It says "we" as in Cigital on their site that wrote the article. Not sure where you think this was published, this was Cigitals findings. |
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[ QUOTE ] This is all they could've gave cigital to "test" their rng...they just give them 'a' algorithm. [/ QUOTE ] no - the algorithm that you quoted is flawed (for the reasons quoted in the cigital article). they could not have given that algorithm to cigital for verificatoin. this is another lie from a lying liar who lies. [/ QUOTE ] Josem, ur being obtuse. I didn't say that WAS the algorithm they gave.. I said that is all they had to do. Quit with the liar crap moron. |
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