The Mike Vick case... am I a life nit? - Page 8

NT! · #71 08-20-2007, 01:01 AM

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Maybe this pic will help you understand why dog fighting is so bad.

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maybe getting banned will help you understand why posting gross NSFW images in OOT is bad

Rootabager · #72 08-20-2007, 01:03 AM

Someone said dogfighting is mostly a redneck activity.

I have a dog and I am around alot of dogs at parks etc. and black guys are way more likely to own pit bulls.

This might be crazy but I dont think dogfighting should even be illegal if you are allowed to hunt animals. That seems just as cruel to me.

Alot of times when you are hunting with a bow and arrow you will shoot a deer then have to track it for miles while it runs and bleeds itself to death. Then when it is not dead you have to take a knife and slit their throats. That seems just as mean to me as dog fighting.

mikeymer · #73 08-20-2007, 02:35 AM

A little off topic but wasn't the only thing that Ray Lewis did was basically not want to rat out his friends when witnessing a crime outside a club? He wasn't even involved in the altercation. People always call him a murderer, I never got that. Then the police just bombarded him with charges that would never stick because he wouldnt cooperate.

doubLe a tom · #74 08-20-2007, 02:53 AM

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human fighting ring (after all, humans are animals)

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DrewDevil · #75 08-20-2007, 10:17 AM

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A little off topic but wasn't the only thing that Ray Lewis did was basically not want to rat out his friends when witnessing a crime outside a club? He wasn't even involved in the altercation. People always call him a murderer, I never got that. Then the police just bombarded him with charges that would never stick because he wouldnt cooperate.

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No, he was there and basically watched his two buddies stab someone to death, then lied about it to the police. He was charged with the murder but there was no real evidence that he actually participated.

DrewDevil · #76 08-20-2007, 10:24 AM

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The point is, neither of these two scumbags served any time, and Vick is going up the river for dogfighting. This doesn't seem right to a lot of us.

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Life isn't fair.

You really need to get over your idealistic view of justice in society. Judge each case in it's own merits and meet out punishment accordingly. You shouldn't base your opinions about the punishments people receive based on whether or not somebody else got away with something and you (or Vick in this case) didn't. That's what children do. Grow up and realize that the real world doesn't work that way regardless of how much you might want it to.

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So I should just accept everything our benevolent government does in the name of "justice" because that's the way the "real world" works?

No, thanks. If I see something I think is unjust, I'll speak up about it, even though I realize "life isn't fair."

And by the way, the U.S. justice system is based not on evalutating each case on "it's [sic] own merits," but on the relative severity of the crime. You get a longer jail term for rape than you do for theft, longer still for murder, etc. Therefore, it is absolutely relevant to bring up criminals who received lighter sentences for more serious crimes. DUCY?

AquaSwing · #77 08-20-2007, 10:41 AM

I think this article does a nice job comparing the Lewis situation with the Vick situation and why Vick is an idiot.

WMB · #78 08-20-2007, 10:47 AM

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You get mad, lose it, hit someone in the heat of the moment. A little easier to forgive than paying someone for 5 years to run a dog fighting ring, and killing the non-performing animals like it was part of a job. The second example shows a serious personality problem while the first show temporary insanity. That is why the Vick case is much more serious case than hitting a spouse, once. (It is bad but it does not on its own show a history) Aside from his legal problem with the dogfighting Vick has violated the NFL's gambling policy. He is not allowed to gamble or associate with gamblers while he is an active roster member. If all he is found guilty of is gambling on dog fights he is still facing a possible life time suspension. But back on why dogs are more cared about that insects. Dogs act more human that insects. That is why we love animals that remind us of ourselves.

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QFT

DMACM · #79 08-20-2007, 11:09 AM

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People have become over-exposed and desensitized to houman violence. Its the same reasom the saddest scene in a movie is if the dog dies versus if a human dies.

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Great point. Additionally I believe that if we actually went out and hunted for meat instead of just buying it people would have a different perspective on this. We are very insulated as a people from what animals do to each other in the wild, and to those of us who eat meat we indirectly do to them as well. Of course what he did was awful but raping or abusing a woman is much much worse.

SL__72 · #80 08-20-2007, 11:15 AM

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A local radio meathead here actually said that what Vick was accused of was way worse than what Kobe was accused of.

WTF.

I think it's worse to rape one woman than to torture and kill all the dogs on earth.

Vick is a scumbag if he ran a dogfighting ring, but he's far less of a scumbag than someone like, say, Warren Moon, who beat the living [censored] out of his wife to the point that his child said 'my daddy is killing my mommy' to the 911 operator. Moon is in the Hall of Fame, Vick's career is over.

Something's not right here.

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Hey, for once I agree 100% with one of your posts.