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Old 03-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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Like someone else suggested, if you had major plans that weekend, TALK to your boss and try to work something out, rather than ask OOT if you have some legal right to get out of it.

What I described above sucked.. sure, but it also afforded me some flexibility with my bosses when stuff like needing an extra day off came up. It's a give and take.

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I wasn't trying to get legal precedence on my side. Just curious honestly. I haven't said anything yet cause he hasn't been in for like 4 days and cause if it's the 3rd weekend, no harm no foul, I don't want them to think im not a team player. It's still irritating though.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
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ASU, has posted a simple question that he is peeved about. most everyone is blowing it out of proportion like he is making a huge issue and mainly on top of that theyre talking like theyre legal experts in answering him when theyre just talking out their ass.

i think ASU came to the wrong place to pose this question. he'll get no serious replies and just ridiculed. im sure though if those people riduculing him were in ASU's shoes they'd be bitching about their ruined weekend too.

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Old 03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
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Bwana,

We might bitch about it, but our first inclination wouldn't be to go look through labor law manuals, and follow that up by asking OOT.

Really, he's gotten the only piece of advice he needs. Talk to your boss about your previously scheduled plans. Try to work something out. If you can't do it on Friday night and you need to be there, either show up, or don't and suffer the consequences. It's really pretty simple.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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This difference here is working Saturdays and overtime is not out of the norm, for OP it is.

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A "norm" precedent doesn't mean you won't be asked to do things outside of the norm.

I mean, [censored], I used to be an hourly worker, too. Once every month or two, I'd show up at 6 a.m., my boss would tell me, "go home, come back at noon. We need you to fill a 12 hour production shift in the other building." I'd mutter '[censored]' to myself, go home, take a nap, and come back to work. Then I'd work 'til midnight, and be back for my normal 6 a.m. shift the next day. And a lot of people do this. Sure it sucked, but in the long run sucking it up payed off much more than nitpicking and weaseling out of it.

Just suck it up. Be glad you got the 3 or 4 week notice. Even if the boss isn't supposed to do this, you'll be better off in life if you just go to work, get the job done, and quit bitching about it.

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Nobody said he can't be asked to do something out of the norm.

OP - I'm pretty sure this became way more than you expected, but here's the deal really:

- Your boss can ask you to work any hours he likes, within reason based on expectation (which means within the "norm")
- If those hours are beyond your reasonable expectation, you can chose to refuse to work those hours without expectation of repercussion (nice to have a legitimate reason though)
- Notice of 3-4 weeks would qualify as reasonable notice, so where it does not cause hardship, your boss has made a reasonable request
- A trip planned prior to the notice is a legitimate reason

Those are the facts. You then need to handle it well:

- immediately tell your boss you have plans on XX weekend
- ask if you can come in early Monday to fix your desk
- decide not to go on the trip

What you are hearing from the "bosses" here on OOT is predictable, because they are profiling you based on your question/reaction. Basically the line of question is one generally held by folks who are not "team players", and is indicative of other deficiencies. That's not to say you have any deficiency, but the approach raises alarms and a (bad) boss will immediately lump you in with those who do. Which is why not working that weekend will be career limiting unless you pull your boss aside and talk to him about why your weekend getaway is worth wagering your career for.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:38 PM
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I'm a boss and I would tell the OP to grow the [censored] up.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:40 PM
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In Tn as a boss I can make any one of my empoyees come in any time of the day and work them as long as I want.

Sometimes I do make them work long hours and they work every other Saturday. But it's nothing I didn't have to do and there's no way around it.

I understand yuo don't want to work on one particular Saturday. Maybe your boss didn't give you as much time to change your personal time around. Maybe he didn't get much time in advance either.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:46 PM
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The Monday suggestion is a great one. Except I doubt it will work because he will really need me on saturday to help network the computers. There are only maybe 2 people in the office who can help him with that.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:47 PM
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I can't believe this post has come this far without anyone coming up with the easy answer.

Tell him you are a jew and can't work on the Sabbath.

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LOOOOL. Genius, except he know's i'm Catholic.

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This surprises me. Thought this would get him off for sure.
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:48 PM
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Just wanted to know if it's legal that's all. I mean if it is illegal someone SHOULD say something correct?

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Making a 40 hour a week employee work a 40 hour week isn't illegal.

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This is too simplistic a view.

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Obviously. So is, "OMG, I my boss wants me to work 1 Saturday in 4 years. This has to be illegal!".

Seriously, the OP can refuse and really doesn't have to work it if he "has previous plans". He's really getting bent out of shape over something just about every other person who has a 9-5 has experienced before.

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I just asked if it was. Also please point me to where I said this was the first saturday in 4 years. I've been asked to work many saturdays and got paid OT for them. This situation is different.

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Sorry, someone else must ahve said the first Saturday. And the Saturday in question is different in only 3 ways:
1) It's replacing a day of work
2) No OT pay has been promised
3) You are too chickenshit to tell your boss you have previous plans and can't make it
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Old 03-06-2007, 02:55 PM
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In Tn as a boss I can make any one of my empoyees come in any time of the day and work them as long as I want.

Sometimes I do make them work long hours and they work every other Saturday. But it's nothing I didn't have to do and there's no way around it.

I understand yuo don't want to work on one particular Saturday. Maybe your boss didn't give you as much time to change your personal time around. Maybe he didn't get much time in advance either.

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What line of work is that? Was that the schedule agreed upon when hired?

We've known about changing offices for 6 months. Just didn't know the exact moving date. Still don't really, just narrowed it down to 2 weekends.
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