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Old 12-02-2006, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: New Fight Question

The top fighter for the job could wind up in any of these groups, depending on circumstances. We're not talking about the average person from any one of these groups, but THE guy.

The top street-fighter might have a criminal history that would keep him out of the military (so he'd never have had the opportunity to be a Navy Seal).

It's the same as asking which of the major sports has the best "overall" male athlete in it (in terms of pure overall physical ability). It depends where the top athlete chose to go, and what his options were.

One year it might be Michael Jordan, another time it might Deion Sanders, or Lance Armstrong, or maybe he's a midfielder on an Italian soccer team, whatever. They could come from anywhere.

Same thing for the top fighter. He could come from, and wind up, anywhere.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:25 AM
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I'd imagine being in an inclosure would be a huge advantage to the ufc/ martial arts guy because that is what they are accustomed to.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:28 AM
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This is for navy seals

PHYSICAL FITNESS STANDARDS

PHYSICAL EVOLUTION REQUIRED TIME
FIRST PHASE

50 meter underwater swim PASS/FAIL
Underwater knot tying PASS/FAIL
Drown proofing test PASS/FAIL
Basic Lifesaving test PASS/FAIL
1200 meter pool swim with fins 45 min
1 mile bay swim with fins 50 min
1 mile ocean swim with fins 50 min
1 l/2 mile ocean swim with fins 70 min
2 mile ocean swim with fins 95 min
Obstacle course 15 min
4 mile timed run 32 min

POST HELL WEEK

2000 meter conditioning pool swim without fins Completion
1 1/2 mile night bay swim with fins Completion
2 mile ocean swim with fins 85 min
4 mile timed run 32 min
Obstacle course 13 min

SECOND PHASE

2 mile ocean swim with fins 80 min
4 mile timed run (in boots) 31 min
Obstacle course 10:30
3 I/2 mile ocean swim with fins Completion
5 1/2 mile ocean swim with fins Completion

THIRD PHASE

Obstacle course 10 min
4 mile timed run (in boots) 30 min
14 mile run Completion
2 mile ocean swim with fins 75 min

RUNNING SCHEDULE I

WEEKS #1, 2: 2 miles/day, 8:30 pace, M/W/F (6 miles/ week)
WEEK #3: No running. High risk of stress fractures
WEEK #4: 3 miles/day, M/W/F (9 miles/wk)
WEEKS #5, 6: 2/3/4/2 miles, M/Tu/Th/F (11 miles/wk)
WEEKS #7,8: 4/4/5/3 miles, M/Tu/Th/F (16 miles/ wk)
WEEK #9: same as #7,8 (16 miles/ wk)


PHYSICAL TRAINING SCHEDULE I (Mon/Wed/Fri)
SETS OF REPETITIONS
WEEK #1: 4X15 PUSHUPS
4X20 SITUPS
3X3 PULL UPS
WEEK #2: 5X20 PUSHUPS
5X20 SITUPS
3X3 PULL UPS
WEEK #3,4: 5X25 PUSHUPS
5X25 SITUPS
3X4 PULL UPS
WEEK #5,6: 6X25 PUSHUPS
6X25 SITUPS
2X8 PULL UPS
WEEK #7,8: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X30 SITUPS
2X10 PULL UPS
WEEK #9: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X30 SITUPS
3X10 PULL UPS

SWIMMING SCHEDULE I
(sidestroke with no fins 4-5 days a week)

WEEKS #1, 2: Swim continuously for 15 min.
WEEKS #3, 4: Swim continuously for 20 min.
WEEKS #5, 6: Swim continuously for 25 min.
WEEKS #7, 8: Swim continuously for 30 min.
WEEK #9: Swim continuously for 35 min.

RUNNING SCHEDULE II
(M/TulTh/F/Sa)

WEEKS #1,2: (3/5/4/5/2)miles 19 miles/week
WEEKS #3, 4: (4/5/6/4/3) miles 22 miles/week
WEEK #5: (5/5/6/4/4) miles 24 miles/week
WEEK #6: (5/6/6/6/4) miles 27 miles/week
WEEK #7: (6/6/6/6/6) miles 30 miles/week

PT SCHEDULE II
(Mon/Wed/Fri)

SETS OF REPETITIONS
WEEK #1, 2: 6X30 PUSHUPS
6X35 SITUPS
3X10 PULL UPS
3X20 DIPS
WEEK #3, 4: lOX20 PUSHUPS
10X25 SITUPS
4X10 PULL UPS
10X15 DIPS
WEEK #5: 15X20 PUSHUPS
15X25 SITUPS
4X12 PULLUPS
15X15 DIPS
WEEK #6: 20X20 PUSHUPS
20X25 SITUPS
5X12 PULL UPS
20X15 DIPS

PYRAMID WORKOUTS

# OF REPETITIONS
PULL UPS: 1,2,3,4,5,4,3,2,1
PUSHUPS: 2,4,6,8,10,8,6,4,2 (2X # pull ups)
SITUPS: 3,6,9,12,15,12,9,6,3 (3X #pull ups)
DIPS: same as pushups


SWIMMING WORKOUTS II
(4-5 days/week)

WEEKS #1, 2: Swim continuously for 35 min.
WEEKS #3, 4: Swim continuously for 45 min.with fins.
WEEK #5: Swim continuously for 60 min. with fins.
WEEK #6: Swim continuously for 75 min. with fins.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:39 AM
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How old are you guys?

I only ask because, while i'm only in my late 20's, I still remember Iron Mike T. when he was in his early 20's. Holy God.

That dood would knock these fools out one by one and then eat their children.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: New Fight Question

[ QUOTE ]
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5221808AAd2i9Z

this link basicaly says the same thing i said. that is that seals pretty much train mma, but they do it very limited and would prefer to just shoot you. now the ufc guy trains it all day every day.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your link does not say that. It is about a single MMA discipline that was taught as part of BUDS, but was cancelled as a military instruction program in the late 1990s.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: New Fight Question

One thing that puzzles me. If the heavyweight MMA guy is so good why doesn't he just specialize in boxing for a while and challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship where he can make Tens if not Hundreds of Millions of Dollars instead of the paltry purses he fights for now?

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Old 12-02-2006, 01:41 AM
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Default One parameter no one thinks about...why boxer stands best chance.

I personally think the UFC fighter would win. But what would stop him from being ganged up upon and killed?

THats what I think would happen. Since he is clearly the strongest...the other 4 would gang up upon him because they know if they go to the final two they cannot beat him.

The boxer is clearly the weakest. He will survive the longest because no one will kill him till the end. THey will save him until the end to ensure victory.

For the boxer, the boxer will stay out of all confrontations. He will pick out all his chances to severely cripple each other the other fighters so that when it becomes heads up he has a distinct advantage.

This leaves the other three. I envision them getting the navy seal out.

This leaves the martial arts guy and the gang street fighter. I imagine the boxer just allying himself with the street fighter and ensuring the extension of the fight between two of them thereby exhausting those two so that when it becomes heads up he is in superior shape.
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: One parameter no one thinks about...why boxer stands best chance.

[ QUOTE ]
I personally think the UFC fighter would win. But what would stop him from being ganged up upon and killed?

THats what I think would happen. Since he is clearly the strongest...the other 4 would gang up upon him because they know if they go to the final two they cannot beat him.

The boxer is clearly the weakest. He will survive the longest because no one will kill him till the end. THey will save him until the end to ensure victory.

For the boxer, the boxer will stay out of all confrontations. He will pick out all his chances to severely cripple each other the other fighters so that when it becomes heads up he has a distinct advantage.

This leaves the other three. I envision them getting the navy seal out.

This leaves the martial arts guy and the gang street fighter. I imagine the boxer just allying himself with the street fighter and ensuring the extension of the fight between two of them thereby exhausting those two so that when it becomes heads up he is in superior shape.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not a battle royale. Read what the d00d with the <font color="red"> RED NAME </font>said.

These discussions can be entertaining and worthwhile if the same things weren't repeated due to a lack of thread reading.
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: New Fight Question

My guess is Navy Seal followed by streetfighter. The 'to the death' bit might get to the others.

Edit:
It has just occured to me that there are a lot more asian martial arts specilists than navy seals. I am still with navy seals, but can we include simaliar combat troops from around the world?
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: One parameter no one thinks about...why boxer stands best chance.

"in a fight to the death with no gloves inside an enclosure, rate the chances of these five"

nowhere does it says it is not a battle royale. In fact, if anything it seems like it is implied as a battle royale.
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