Your new WSOP champ is a chump.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

If I won the ME I would tip $0.

[Fletch46]

Sounds like the staff tip was taken off the top and did not come out of the $7.5M. I always find it interesting that we tip $1 a pot at the lowly level I play at and so do the $30/60 or $50/100 players. Can't wait 'till I can move up. I don't mind tipping. Our dealers aren't making alot of money but I think our higher level players could be a little more generous. Some of them take home thousands on a regular basis.

[kflop]

When you get room service now, hotels put 18% tip on automatically. Then they leave you a spot for an addition tip. If you ask most waiters they'll say all of the 18% doesn't go to them. This guy gave $150,000. to the staff and $300,000. to the hotel. If he'd won the whole $7,950,000. and tipped $100,000. everyone would have been happy. The players continue to get screwed every which way and if a guy makes an act of a tired man who had been playing poker for 8 days and gives the final dealer $100 everybody is all over him. Give him back his $450,000. and then come down on him. Do you have any idea of how much money Harrahs made from this event and how little they gave the players in return.

[Quiet Lion]

I think tipping casino employees should be illegal as it is in the UK, for reasons that should be obvious. But regardless of that, any suggestion that a winner ought to voluntarily give the staff more than the $1,123,800 forcibly extracted from the contestants is beyond comical.

QL
www.liontales.com

[CieloAzor]

I'm with Mr. Pink on this one. This tipping automatically stuff is for the birds. Hachem's my hero now.

I can't believe the government allows restaurants to pay their employees less than minimum wage, so the patrons of the establishments feel required to cover the difference, or else receive mean looks and possibly have their food tampered with in the future. Like it's my job to pay their salary. Wtf.

[Sniper]

I guess you believe that Uncle Sam should give the dealers a tax breaks, since Uncle Sam was the biggest winner at the WSOP [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[11t]

Yes, I had a few friends study abroad and they claim that in Australia tipping is not a social custom.

[daryn]

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Sweet fukcing jesus.

The Diceman things you people are all insane. Tipping a $100 bill after winning $7.5 mill is simply insulting.

I have tipped my fukcing hairdresser $100 before!! Poker is becoming infested with egotistical, CHEAPASS, immature punks like yourselves!

Now, before you flame the Diceman, I understand that money was witheld for the staff, so a large tip may not be necessary. But $100 is just stupid. This situation calls for a grand, MINIMUM! That would at least say, hey, I know you have been compensated, but I just won 7.5mil and want to show my gratitude for conducting this opportunity for me. Fukcing jokesters.

And to you pencil dicks who keep saying that a monkey could deal poker, refer back to my earlier description of the "new breed" of poker players. Fukcing fools. You wouldn't last 10 minutes in the box.

Clueless, classless dumbasses.

Dice out!

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hello, al capone jr.

[Glenn]

I would tip 0. Look at it analytically. When you tip, you are trying to assure that the dealers make above W per hour. W is your assessment of a fair hourly wage, so in a ring game, you would tip (1/p) * W per hour on average, with p being the average number of players at the table. The fuzzy task is figuring out the number of man hours required to deal the main event.

On day 1, 2, and 3, they started with about 1900 and played down to about 620. This took 15.5 hours each day, including breaks. We'll count the breaks as time worked to err on the side of caution. A reasonable high guess is that an average of 140 tables were running for the 15.5 hours. 2,170 man hours/day * 3 days = 6,510 man hours for days 1-3.

Day 4 started with 1860 players and ended with 570. They played 14 hours with an estimated average of 150 9-handed tables. 2100 man hours.

Day 5 started with 570 and played down to 185. An average of 50 9-handed tables for 13.5 hours. 675 man hours.

Day 6 started with 185 players and ended with 58 in 13.5 hours of play. An average of 15 tables for 13.5 hours or 202.5 man hours.

It would be a waste of time analysing the rest of the tourney, since the numbers are so small. We will estimate that an additional 200 dealer hours were required.

We have arrived at a total of 9,687.5 dealer hours.

$1,123,800 was taken from the prize pool for tournament staff.

The dealers' hourly rate from the 2% of the prize pool that was withheld? $116.

I understand dealers don't get 100% of this money because the floormen, etc, get a cut. Even if they only get half of that, it's plenty. Just because you deal cards in a big event doesn't mean you aren't still dealing cards. It's like saying that bank tellers should get big bonuses when they do large transactions.

[rokstedy]

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Sounds like the staff tip was taken off the top and did not come out of the $7.5M. I always find it interesting that we tip $1 a pot at the lowly level I play at and so do the $30/60 or $50/100 players. Can't wait 'till I can move up. I don't mind tipping. Our dealers aren't making alot of money but I think our higher level players could be a little more generous. Some of them take home thousands on a regular basis.

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I'm not sure how much a regular ring player makes on a given night is at all relevant to how much you should tip a dealer, or anyone else for that matter. I hate that some people act like they got a tip coming, whether or not they deserve a little, a lot or any at all. Be grateful ya bastards. In my job, where I provide a very valuable service to society, I don't get tipped squat.