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Old 10-12-2007, 05:05 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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How [censored] stupid are you?

Nath is 1000x better player than you. You somehow have him paying attention to you. Your energy would be sooo much better spent trying to convince him to improve your play, instead of trying to convince him you were just that unlucky over 1.6 million hands.

Even if you somehow are the unluckiest poker player ever, and you would have been they biggest winner at those levels if you ran normal, you would still be better off trying to
get Nath to help you.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:06 PM
LucidDream LucidDream is offline
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We really need a new "Official hands FGators played horribly" thread. People w/ his database and anyone who has played hands against him can post the hands. Showing his biggest losers/winners is ridiculous. If you show my biggest winners/losers it's gonna be mostly suckouts and coolers too. We need to see the 100bb pots that he is most likely screwing up all the time.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:06 PM
Speel Posher Speel Posher is offline
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you are not [censored] anything up, but you are not playing optimally. Your game doesnt need to be revamped. Just tweaked a little
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:09 PM
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And nobody has given me evidence of small to medium pots where I F it up, not one piece of it.

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its not really something to quantify, if you released a batch of say 2000 of your hands from a given day of 2/4 I bet numerous winning players could point them out to you

unfortunately the only hands you make public are all the bad beats and coolers everyone else experiences. if you speak to poly_baller or bouge_todd their sentiments would be similar to yours, except their loose play generates money and action from players that you get no action from.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:09 PM
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nath,

I know you have no reason to help me at all and I don't expect you to or really don't want you to but since you are my #1 hater I would give you every single hand I've ever played and I think this would prove to you that I'm a good player.

I know you don't have the time for this but as my #1 basher for over a year and a half, I think, now I'm just saying with FULL CONFIDENCE that if you saw my hands played from 300k-1.6 million you would eat your words.

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This is an easy offer for you to make because you know there's literally no way I would comb through 1.3 million hands; I mean, I have a life

Dude, facts are facts. You lost money over a giant sample size and many, many winning players try to tell you what's wrong with your game and your thinking, and you ignore their advice, take it personally, or spout theories about how Stars is rigged.

Do you even believe you have room to improve?

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yes, I can be more aggressive and much trickier. For a while I just played hands as I read them on here and now I've tried playing hands lately where I run through my head "okay I think he think I'm gonna raise here so becasue of that I'm gonna lead or he thinks I'm gonna bet here some I'm gonna check here and check/call, check/raise the river"etc.

I'm working on it.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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We really need a new "Official hands FGators played horribly" thread. People w/ his database and anyone who has played hands against him can post the hands. Showing his biggest losers/winners is ridiculous. If you show my biggest winners/losers it's gonna be mostly suckouts and coolers too. We need to see the 100bb pots that he is most likely screwing up all the time.

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He won't have a tons of big hands he played horribly. 99% of big pots Fgators plays will involve him playing a big hand reasonably well. Its not that hard to play big overpairs and sets well as long as you know to play them aggressively. You won't see all the times he folds the best hand to an overcard on the turn, misses good spots to float, misses a valuebet, etc.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:10 PM
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FGators26 Top 10 LOST, 1/2 NLHE only, hands that went to showdown.


PokerStars Game #8400069796: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/02/12 - 01:00:01 (ET)
Table 'Syringa' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ayoria ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: pomplemouse ($74.45 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($378.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Sauce123 ($84.65 in chips)
Seat 5: driverseati ($204.70 in chips)
Seat 6: redargoe ($446.70 in chips)



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Wow, anyone find this hilarious?

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the sauce bit is really funny because he only has $80 on the table, but redargoe is not surprising at all. when i was a 200nl stars reg, he was on the nitty side but definitely a top 3 regular. now hes opened up his game more LAGgy and is one of the best 5/10+ players for certain.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:11 PM
FGators FGators is offline
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How [censored] stupid are you?

Nath is 1000x better player than you. You somehow have him paying attention to you. Your energy would be sooo much better spent trying to convince him to improve your play, instead of trying to convince him you were just that unlucky over 1.6 million hands.

Even if you somehow are the unluckiest poker player ever, and you would have been they biggest winner at those levels if you ran normal, you would still be better off trying to
get Nath to help you.

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Huge over the top exaggeration an not even close.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:11 PM
goofyballer goofyballer is offline
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It looks like he's won $7k over his last 150k hands for a 1.2 ptbb/100 earn. If he plays 5k hands/day, that's about $230/day. I for one think that's an accomplishment.

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4.7? Uh, no.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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nath,

I know you have no reason to help me at all and I don't expect you to or really don't want you to but since you are my #1 hater I would give you every single hand I've ever played and I think this would prove to you that I'm a good player.

I know you don't have the time for this but as my #1 basher for over a year and a half, I think, now I'm just saying with FULL CONFIDENCE that if you saw my hands played from 300k-1.6 million you would eat your words.

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This is an easy offer for you to make because you know there's literally no way I would comb through 1.3 million hands; I mean, I have a life

Dude, facts are facts. You lost money over a giant sample size and many, many winning players try to tell you what's wrong with your game and your thinking, and you ignore their advice, take it personally, or spout theories about how Stars is rigged.

Do you even believe you have room to improve?

[/ QUOTE ]

yes, I can be more aggressive and much trickier. For a while I just played hands as I read them on here and now I've tried playing hands lately where I run through my head "okay I think he think I'm gonna raise here so becasue of that I'm gonna lead or he thinks I'm gonna bet here some I'm gonna check here and check/call, check/raise the river"etc.

I'm working on it.

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how many tables do you play
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