STTF SNG->cash thread - Page 70

djj6835 · #**691** 09-05-2007, 03:07 PM

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anyone think about checking the turn ?

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No, but the turn is a fold imo. This is at least aces up and probably a straight for this villain. I would check the flop sometimes.

dipstikdave · #**692** 09-05-2007, 03:39 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($49)
UTG ($87.15)
Button ($46.10)
SB ($50.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $48.5, Button calls $40.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($92.45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($92.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $92.46

The Venetian · #**693** 09-05-2007, 04:34 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($49)
UTG ($87.15)
Button ($46.10)
SB ($50.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $48.5, Button calls $40.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($92.45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($92.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $92.46

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I think I'd prefer to have one clean out before doing this.

futuredoc85 · #**694** 09-05-2007, 04:46 PM

he has at least 6, but this is a bit much in a limped pot [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

dipstikdave · #**695** 09-05-2007, 06:52 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP raises to $6, Button folds,hero?

Josem · #**696** 09-05-2007, 07:02 PM

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villain is 17/9/1

anyone think about checking the turn ?

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No. You have two pair, and are well ahead of villain's calling range on the flop.

However, the check-raise now suggests that you're now behind.

When the check-raise on the turn comes, a 17/9/1 limp/calling UTG can't have a very wide range - I think it is almost precisely - JQs, 99, TT. The 1 PF aggression factor suggests that he is normally passive, and this is a huge amount of strength the villain is claiming.

Turn raises are almost always able to beat top pair; I can't imagine what you're ahead of here - only T9 and K9 (and weird bluffs) and I don't think they're in the villain's range.

GtrHtr · #**697** 09-05-2007, 07:26 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP raises to $6, Button folds,hero?

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why did you check the flop?

also, at this level, calling pf is not great. You're mostly playing this hand to hit draws when in position. When you hit those draws you are unlikely to get paid off oop.

Josem · #**698** 09-05-2007, 07:36 PM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 8.

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I don't understand why you'd check the flop, but I guess you need to call the turn raise and hope for a cheap showdown.

You're well ahead of villains' range currently, but I don't think you're ahead of villain's calling range if you re-raise on the turn.

dipstikdave · #**699** 09-05-2007, 07:52 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP raises to $6, Button folds,hero?

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why did you check the flop?

also, at this level, calling pf is not great. You're mostly playing this hand to hit draws when in position. When you hit those draws you are unlikely to get paid off oop.

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i checked the flop cuz i am a moran. also thought i was bb when i called pf. nevertheless, should i reraise the turn?

cakewalk · #**700** 09-05-2007, 08:39 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($49)
UTG ($87.15)
Button ($46.10)
SB ($50.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $48.5, Button calls $40.10 (All-In).

Turn: ($92.45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($92.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $92.46

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completely unnecessary. fold>call>shove this situation

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