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Old 10-29-2007, 03:12 PM
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sorry it doesnt work like that. 40 and 100 are totally different. you can't just divide and come up with 40 times. Reggie Bush ran a 10.42 100 meter dash in HS and he has 4.2-4.3 speed. So 10.9 is prob 4.5-4.7 range.

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I didn't just "divide it up". Most kids who run a 10.9 in the 100m run a 4.7-4.8 in the 40.


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more like 4.5-4.6
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:31 PM
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Firstly, I really, really doubt that Bears dude could beat Lomu over 100m. Refer to the blog article linked above.

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The blog article suggests that all 40 times aren't "real" due to the reaction time of coaches using stop watches, amongst over things....I pretty much stopped reading there, as I agree with the principle he is referring too, and that is why I only cite 40 times run on the laser, which the NFL combine has been using for 17 years.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:32 PM
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This is extremely incorrect RedBean. Those kids would run a football 40 in the 4.5 range. If you mean they would split 4.7 or 4.8 at the 40 yard mark in a 100 you are correct.

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Not necessarily. A fast starter is going to run a faster 40 relative to his 100m, whereas a strogn finisher in the 100m is going to run a slower 40.

It's all relative, and unless Lomu wants to jump in the time machine back to his peak and run the 40 with the lasers on, we'll never really know...but most kids I've seen that clock a 10.9 100m, usually run in the 4.7-4.8 range....although everyone is different. You can have two guys run nearly identical 100m and one can blow the other away in the 40, and vice verse.

FWIW, Willie Gault recently set a world record for men over 45, clocking 10.72 in the 100m, and that same year he clocked a 4.65 in the 40 "just for fun" and it is said to have been on a bad track. At his peak he ran a 10.10 100m and a "4.2" 40 (pre-laser).
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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I'd love to see Ray Lewis play rugby
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:47 PM
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He'd be a killer.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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He'd be a killer.

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Old 10-29-2007, 07:05 PM
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I'd love to see Ray Lewis play rugby

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Trying to tell me you wouldn't want to see a Roy Williams, Ed Reed, or Brian Dawkins? What about a John Henderson, Julius Peppers or Richard Seymour? Hell give me a Lorenzo Neal or Alan Faneca. Men that are just athletic and enourmous.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:33 PM
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Anyone saying no is just a rugby fanboi.

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Yeah, cause theres just so many rugby fanbois on this board

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Old 10-29-2007, 07:34 PM
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btw if this Harris is so sick why isn't he playing running back? I mean, it's a much more influential position that defensive tackle

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No, its not.

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It's ridiculous to suggest that a country of 300 million currently has 50+ people who are capable of being the greatest rugby player ever if they tried. NFL has some incredible athletes, but so does rugby. And just because someone is massive and speedy doesn't necessarily translate to a successful rugby career. You need to be much better rounded to succeed in rugby as opposed to the highly specialised positions in NFL.

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I'd take the over and it wouldn't even be close. People who don't watch rugby probably don't appreciate how easily they would get dominated at set plays and tactically, ignoring the fact that your average NFL player would need to learn a whole new set of skills. Your average RB/WR probably has no idea how to pass, kick or tackle.

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Replying to a couple of different people here who made similar points.

Many NFL players can catch and tackle, or catch, pass and tackle due to their backgrounds in college and high school. LT played LB in highschool and has thrown 7 TDs in the NFL, Josh Cribbs played QB in college and is now a return man/wide receiver/cover man on special team, mike Vrable is a LB who has caught 8 TDs in his career. Except for very high draft picks, QBs, and the biggest linemen most NFL players start out their careers on special teams where they learn to tackle. There are plenty of guys who are capable of passing, kicking, catching and tackling who just don't have to since there are invariably several specialists on their team better at those specific skill sets.

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Hell, why not play him on defense AND offense? Seeing as how he would be the greatest ever rugby player, where you play 80 minutes out of 100 and run around a bunch, I'm sure he'd find 60 minutes out 160 in a static but explosive game a piece of piss.

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Because the people he is playing against aren't playing both sides of the ball.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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I change my mind then. US football players win the World Cup in 6 months. I didn't know LT used to run uphill in the heat. Man. That is crazy.

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I don't know man, that kid's mouthpiece is about to fly out his mouth.



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You made me LOL with both of these, congrats.

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