Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?

[LasVegasMichael]

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this isnt an interesting topic, its just a revelation that some people lack simple things like class and a sense of fairness.

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The fact that Farha/Townsend stiffed is not the interesting part of the thread that TT was referring to (it might be if this thread were in NVG, but here it is irrelevant). The interesting part is the tangeant discussion concerning whether or not Linda is in her right to publish this information without fear of termination or not.

[spacemanspiff]

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I'm pretty sure it could be argued in a court of law that disclosing customer habits without prior permission would be considered disclosing trade secrets. I'll call my lawyer and ask him for a legal opinion if your willing to pay his hourly fee [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Anything can be argued in a court of law, but I see no reason whatsoever that the contents of this story would be considered "trade secrets." There's nothing secret about it. It happened in public, and it has nothing to do with the trade (gaming). It's a simple transaction (lack of, actually) between a player and the dealer/author of the blog. It's no more a trade secret than the color of the shirt he was wearing.

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It's a slow day at work. From the NV general laws:

5. “Trade secret” means information, including, without limitation, a formula, pattern, compilation, program, device, method, technique, product, system, process, design, prototype, procedure, computer programming instruction or code that:

(a) Derives independent economic value, actual or potential, from not being generally known to, and not being readily ascertainable by proper means by the public or any other persons who can obtain commercial or economic value from its disclosure or use; and

(b) Is the subject of efforts that are reasonable under the circumstances to maintain its secrecy.


Assuming that the Bellagio doesn't really make any effort to hide whether or not their customers tip, this situation seems to fail section B. Might also fail section A but I could see a decent argument that the behavior of their customers is valuable information.

Here's the link: http://search.leg.state.nv.us/isysquery/irle884/1/doc

[Homer]

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While it would be nice for them to spread the wealth, $5/down isn't entirely unreasonable. It comes out to about $30k/year (and if you meant they both threw him a red it would be $50k/yr). Tons of people in this country bust their asses day in and day out for less money than this. No way someone pitching cards across a table should make more than $50k/yr.

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I love when people complain about somebody making a lot of money for doing a certain job. It's not like poker dealers are making their money from your tax dollars. It's none of your business how much they make, and if you consider it unfair that some of them make over 50k a year for just pitching cards, you should get a job as a dealer so you can get in on some of that easy money.

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Perhaps you should explain the same to the guy who was laughing his ass off that a high stakes player tipped a dealer a redbird. I assume you are a dealer since you're so pissed off at my opinion. BTW, I don't give a [censored] if a good dealer makes $100k/yr -- good for him. My only point is that someone who TIPS a redbird shouldn't be bashed for doing so.

[AngusThermopyle]

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I love when people complain about somebody making a lot of money for doing a certain job. It's not like poker dealers are making their money from your tax dollars. It's none of your business how much they make, and if you consider it unfair that some of them make over 50k a year for just pitching cards, you should get a job as a dealer so you can get in on some of that easy money.

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And I love it when people complain that X does not tip. It's none of your business how much they tip, and if you consider it unfair that some do not tip, you should get in the game with them, beat them out of their money, and tip triple.

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this isnt an interesting topic, its just a revelation that some people lack simple things like class and a sense of fairness.

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The fact that Farha/Townsend stiffed is not the interesting part of the thread that TT was referring to (it might be if this thread were in NVG, but here it is irrelevant). The interesting part is the tangent discussion concerning whether or not Linda is in her right to publish this information without fear of termination or not.

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I concur.

[spacemanspiff]

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The fact that Farha/Townsend stiffed is not the interesting part of the thread that TT was referring to (it might be if this thread were in NVG, but here it is irrelevant). The interesting part is the tangent discussion concerning whether or not Linda is in her right to publish this information without fear of termination or not.

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I concur.

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I confess that my law-dork nature means I also find the whole trade secret discussion pretty interesting. Who knew a tipping thread could turn out so well?

[pocketpared]

Casinos have no right to bar card counters because they think before they bet..but casinos do. It's not about right and wrong. It's about how casinos think. They can fire cocktail waitresses who put on more than x pounds.

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Casinos have no right to bar card counters because they think before they bet..but casinos do. It's not about right and wrong. It's about how casinos think. They can fire cocktail waitresses who put on more than x pounds.

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Actually this is incorrect, they can't fire waitresses for this because its against federal labor laws. They can however fire "entertainers" for this reason, and thats why the Borgata cocktail waitresses are hired to be entertainers. There was a discussion about this in a thread last year, if someone wants to dig it up (my explanation is very basic, I'm sure its not 100% accurate).

[Don Olney]

they do have the right to bar card counters.
they can bar someone just BECAUSE.
Never forget, you and I are a guest in there house, they do have the right by NV law to ask us to leave and never come back.

[pocketpared]

I agree with the semantics. The fact is casinos, with few exceptions, have the states locked up regarding the courts. Look what happened in NJ..no public smoking statewide. Except casinos...even if it is only 25% of floor space.