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05-31-2007, 04:42 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm done wasting my time arguing with people that don't want to observe the game. [/ QUOTE ] you have two pros who have played thousands of hours in the game and hundreds of hours with those two individual players (one of which plays once a week at most) and are telling you you're wrong, and yet we're the ones not observing the game? [/ QUOTE ] No offense... but my definition of "PRO" is something a little higher than a guy playing 30-60 and squeeking by. I know the cost of living out here is WAY lower than LA... but I don't see how a "pro" could live in a state that allows the MAX bet of any poker game to be $60??? You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] now your just lashing out... your trying to say that if Bob makes 2BB/hour that 120/hour int a good enough income to live off of in Minnesota? Also did you ever stop to think that Bob might also play online? 
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#62
05-31-2007, 04:43 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] that or just be good at poker. [/ QUOTE ] yeah... but even a winning player who books a win at 2 out of 3 or even 3 out of 4 sessions, [/ QUOTE ] this statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding about being a pro. 'book a win'???? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... I understand the hourly rate of return.. one big bet an hour... blah blah blah however, in a very aggressive game like that... I think you have to have a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach. That's what I'm referring to you. Would you be willing to disclose what your hourly rate is in that game? I'm sure you keep great stats.
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#63
05-31-2007, 04:43 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm done wasting my time arguing with people that don't want to observe the game. [/ QUOTE ] you have two pros who have played thousands of hours in the game and hundreds of hours with those two individual players (one of which plays once a week at most) and are telling you you're wrong, and yet we're the ones not observing the game? [/ QUOTE ] No offense... but my definition of "PRO" is something a little higher than a guy playing 30-60 and squeeking by. I know the cost of living out here is WAY lower than LA... but I don't see how a "pro" could live in a state that allows the MAX bet of any poker game to be $60??? You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] now your just lashing out... your trying to say that if Bob makes 2BB/hour that 120/hour int a good enough income to live off of in Minnesota? Also did you ever stop to think that Bob might also play online? [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure computers don't exist in the midwest. [ QUOTE ] Yeah... I understand the hourly rate of return.. one big bet an hour... blah blah blah however, in a very aggressive game like that... I think you have to have a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach. That's what I'm referring to you. Would you be willing to disclose what your hourly rate is in that game? I'm sure you keep great stats. [/ QUOTE ] Are you serious? I don't know anyone with a "a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach" and I'm pretty sure the games I play are similarly aggressive. My max down is however many dollars I lose before deciding that I'm not playing as well as I should be. The max dollars I am willing to win is all of them. The max hours I am willing to play is until I think I can barely drive home safely depending on how long I have been awake and what I did before going to play poker.
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#64
05-31-2007, 04:45 AM
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However, next time any of these players are in LA... I'll have one of the boss-men at the Bike set up any game we want to play. [/ QUOTE ] I smell road trip.
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#65
05-31-2007, 04:46 AM
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[ QUOTE ] You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] that or just be good at poker. [/ QUOTE ] I just started playing more live now that they upped the max bet in WA to $40 from $20 (so 20/40 is possible) and i've seen the dumbest [censored] in these games. I've seen a guy raise PF, get 3bet, then fold 55 face up and say I know you got it, nice hand. I've seen people limp in, get raised, then fold (multiple times).
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#66
05-31-2007, 04:46 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm done wasting my time arguing with people that don't want to observe the game. [/ QUOTE ] you have two pros who have played thousands of hours in the game and hundreds of hours with those two individual players (one of which plays once a week at most) and are telling you you're wrong, and yet we're the ones not observing the game? [/ QUOTE ] No offense... but my definition of "PRO" is something a little higher than a guy playing 30-60 and squeeking by. I know the cost of living out here is WAY lower than LA... but I don't see how a "pro" could live in a state that allows the MAX bet of any poker game to be $60??? You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] now your just lashing out... your trying to say that if Bob makes 2BB/hour that 120/hour int a good enough income to live off of in Minnesota? Also did you ever stop to think that Bob might also play online? [/ QUOTE ] OK... I have a lot of respect for TT... so I'll try to not lash out any more. However, I do think I'm bringing up some valid points about the possibility of cheating going on under everyone's noses... and not getting any recipricol respect. But I don't really care about that. -AND- to tell you the truth... I don't play on line any longer cause my tax man said to stop. So in that realm... I'm a little ego-centrical. I forget that there are still alot of players making money on-line. BTW... I think 2BB an hour in any game is a bit of a stretch (live).
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#67
05-31-2007, 04:46 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] that or just be good at poker. [/ QUOTE ] yeah... but even a winning player who books a win at 2 out of 3 or even 3 out of 4 sessions, [/ QUOTE ] this statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding about being a pro. 'book a win'???? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... I understand the hourly rate of return.. one big bet an hour... blah blah blah however, in a very aggressive game like that... I think you have to have a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach. That's what I'm referring to you. Would you be willing to disclose what your hourly rate is in that game? I'm sure you keep great stats. [/ QUOTE ] w t f ? and yes I log every session of every game I play and no I will not say my winrate in that game.
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#68
05-31-2007, 04:48 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] that or just be good at poker. [/ QUOTE ] yeah... but even a winning player who books a win at 2 out of 3 or even 3 out of 4 sessions, [/ QUOTE ] this statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding about being a pro. 'book a win'???? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... I understand the hourly rate of return.. one big bet an hour... blah blah blah however, in a very aggressive game like that... I think you have to have a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach. That's what I'm referring to you. Would you be willing to disclose what your hourly rate is in that game? I'm sure you keep great stats. [/ QUOTE ] i don't keep great stats. i did win $261 today though. again, what you write doesn't make sense. why would i ever quit a great game just because i hit some magic loss number? don't answer that, as it will sidetrack the thread, but it is something you need to think about.
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#69
05-31-2007, 04:48 AM
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i read half this thread...
i have played countless hours in the cb30 game and i have played a ton w/ pbob. accusing him of colluding or knowing about colludsion is one of the most redic statements ever. but then again you played a whole 7 hours in the game so i am sure you know what you are talking about. rt
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#70
05-31-2007, 04:50 AM
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Re: Obvious Collusion at the Canterbury Club (Long -Cliff Notes at bot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You'd have to play a ridiculous amount of hours or get absurdly lucky to make a living playing at this limit. [/ QUOTE ] that or just be good at poker. [/ QUOTE ] yeah... but even a winning player who books a win at 2 out of 3 or even 3 out of 4 sessions, [/ QUOTE ] this statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding about being a pro. 'book a win'???? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... I understand the hourly rate of return.. one big bet an hour... blah blah blah however, in a very aggressive game like that... I think you have to have a certain standard deviation threshold... a max up and/or down for a day / session that you are ready / willing to reach. That's what I'm referring to you. Would you be willing to disclose what your hourly rate is in that game? I'm sure you keep great stats. [/ QUOTE ] w t f ? and yes I log every session of every game I play and no I will not say my winrate in that game. [/ QUOTE ] do you win?
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