Mr. Sicko strikes again: Michael Moore Has a Boner for Cuba - Page 7

elwoodblues · #61 06-04-2007, 05:28 PM

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More to the point however is that ilk like Mr. Moore deserve to be made fun for their asinine attempts at supposed fairness and his particular ‘documentary’ style of filmmaking as if this gives credence to his pre-conceived notions and agenda.

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Who is making the claim that his films are fair? Certainly not Moore.

DING-DONG YO · #62 06-04-2007, 05:33 PM

I didn't know you could lawl at a politics post. Well written, OP.

pokerbobo · #63 06-04-2007, 06:33 PM

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More to the point however is that ilk like Mr. Moore deserve to be made fun for their asinine attempts at supposed fairness and his particular ‘documentary’ style of filmmaking as if this gives credence to his pre-conceived notions and agenda.

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Who is making the claim that his films are fair? Certainly not Moore.

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When people splice together various events, all the while knowing it is a propaganda piece, and call it a documentary they are marketing it as a "fair" representation.

elwoodblues · #64 06-04-2007, 07:18 PM

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When people splice together various events, all the while knowing it is a propaganda piece, and call it a documentary they are marketing it as a "fair" representation.

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Michael Moore would be the first to agree that his movies are propaganda. When Moore himself talks about his films he says that they are not like traditional documentaries and that he views them more as "nonfiction personal essays."

The claim that Moore is selling his films as "fair" rings as hollow as would someone claiming that an editorial wasn't balanced (because a newspaper is supposed to be fair) or that Bill O'Reilly (sp?) is unfair (because a news channel is supposed to be.)

pokerbobo · #65 06-04-2007, 07:34 PM

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When people splice together various events, all the while knowing it is a propaganda piece, and call it a documentary they are marketing it as a "fair" representation.

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Michael Moore would be the first to agree that his movies are propaganda. When Moore himself talks about his films he says that they are not like traditional documentaries and that he views them more as "nonfiction personal essays."

The claim that Moore is selling his films as "fair" rings as hollow as would someone claiming that an editorial wasn't balanced (because a newspaper is supposed to be fair) or that Bill O'Reilly (sp?) is unfair (because a news channel is supposed to be.)

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documentary: a dramatic or instructive presentation prepared for motion pictures or TV, and providing a complete record of a place, person, or subject of unusual interest or special significance.

Yes, complete record is in the defintion, Moore was awarded an oscar for a documentary...was he not?

I suppose you can claim that is the academy's fault for putting him in the wrong category, but when the masses of uninformed hear documentary... they give it weight as "fact" and "how it all happened"

If far. 9-11 was a book, would you consider it fiction or non fiction?

badplayer · #66 06-04-2007, 08:12 PM

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documentary: a dramatic or instructive presentation prepared for motion pictures or TV, and providing a complete record of a place, person, or subject of unusual interest or special significance.

Yes, complete record is in the defintion,

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That definition is BS. How can any documentary be a COMPLETE record of a place, person, or subject of unusual interest or special significance???

pokerbobo · #67 06-04-2007, 08:49 PM

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documentary: a dramatic or instructive presentation prepared for motion pictures or TV, and providing a complete record of a place, person, or subject of unusual interest or special significance.

Yes, complete record is in the defintion,

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That definition is BS. How can any documentary be a COMPLETE record of a place, person, or subject of unusual interest or special significance???

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Ask Webster.... I think it is meant that if you make a documentary of say D-Day, you dont leave out something like the storming of the beach or the death toll. (the main diffence between docs and propaganda)

Zeno · #68 06-04-2007, 10:56 PM

For perhaps a better, or at least other views of Mr. Moore, see Here (from El Diablo's Forum):

What's your opinion of Michael Moore

-Zeno

Copernicus · #69 06-05-2007, 12:19 AM

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Isn't Cuba known for their good doctors?

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Yeah, for the small % of the population that get to use them.

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Have you got evidence of this? Ive always been from a somehwat ignorant perspective that unlike America all inhabitatns can recieve free health care and thus the use of a doctor.

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They can, but they dont get access to the same doctors/hospitals and treatments that the elite do. They get the equivalent of free clinics.

PLOlover · #70 06-05-2007, 01:51 AM

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They can, but they dont get access to the same doctors/hospitals and treatments that the elite do. They get the equivalent of free clinics.

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how is that different than the US? you mean in the US more people are considered elites? I'll bet 20% of US pop get the equiv of free clinics ER rooms, which probably arent as good as the free clinics in cuba.