5.20 sopranos

[pirateboy]

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also - the guy who answered the door at Phil's house was with the guy when they ran into Meadow, and when Tony beat him down

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I think they were different guys.

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bWAHAAHAH.

Some of you are horrible at watching TV.

That was very clearly the same guy.

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You sure about that? I had it on DVR but erased it, dammnit. I was pretty sure, like 90%, that the guy with the glass eye was at the restaurant when Tony curb stomped Coco and at the door or Phil's place, but NOT with Coco at the restaurant with Meadow.

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You are correct, sir. Butch was *not* with Coco in Little Italy when Coco harassed Meadow.

I think Dids knows this, but misunderstood the poster's "I think they're different guy."

[KDawg]

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Sopranos Rewind: The Second Coming
Posted by Alan Sepinwall May 21, 2007 12:29AM

(Witness the way he hides from Tony and Little Carmine in the little turret of his suburban castle; he's a coward at heart .)



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Does anyone else not see this? Phil has never come across as cowardly to me. Petty, selfish, vindictive yes, but not cowardly.

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I think that phil has been cowardly, he just shows it at interesting times. When Johnny Sack was the boss, phil was always hiding behind sack whenever he'd pull off his shenagains, and Phil did nothing in retailiation to tony when tony nearly killed phil in that car scene a couple seasons back when tony forced phil's car to the parked truck

[Brocktoon]

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Tony was out of line by beating up the made-guy for what he said.

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Pffft. You are probably the ONLY person watching the show who thinks that.

[pirateboy]

It's always been my understanding that family is off-limits, and any action towards them is a personal attack.

[Brocktoon]

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I think Dids knows this, but misunderstood the poster's "I think they're different guy."



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So, he's either "horrible at watching TV" or horrible at reading other people's posts. At least I'm vindicated. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[rbdog]

I think we see now what and where Tony is going to go. Too much has landed, and his indecision/inaction has almost cost him his crew, his 'moral authority' and his family.

From Hamlet, Act IV, Scene IV:

'How all occasions do inform against me,
And spur my dull revenge! What is a man,
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? a beast, no more.
Sure, he that made us with such large discourse,
Looking before and after, gave us not
That capability and god-like reason
To fust in us unused. Now, whether it be
Bestial oblivion, or some craven scruple
Of thinking too precisely on the event,
A thought which, quarter'd, hath but one part wisdom
And ever three parts coward, I do not know
Why yet I live to say 'This thing's to do;'
Sith I have cause and will and strength and means
To do't. Examples gross as earth exhort me:
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Rightly to be great
Is not to stir without great argument,
But greatly to find quarrel in a straw
When honour's at the stake. How stand I then,
That have a father kill'd, a mother stain'd,
Excitements of my reason and my blood,
And let all sleep? while, to my shame, I see
The imminent death of twenty thousand men,
That, for a fantasy and trick of fame,
Go to their graves like beds, fight for a plot
Whereon the numbers cannot try the cause,
Which is not tomb enough and continent
To hide the slain? O, from this time forth,
My thoughts be bloody, or be nothing worth!'


Cliffs Notes: What is a man if he is not kicking ass? A beast that just eats and sleeps? I've had all this crap done to me, and here's this other guy going to war over much much less. From now on, blood and destruction.

We have two weeks now to imagine who is getting killed and how. I predict many, and with big guns.

[Triumph36]

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Tony was out of line by beating up the made-guy for what he said.

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Pffft. You are probably the ONLY person watching the show who thinks that.

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while the guy was way out of line, i think tony was out of line too. As a comparison, the ralph cifaretto comment was made in confidence and not directly at ginny, that situation was settled with some negotiation and little bloodshed (IIRC).

the scene with meadow, carmela, and tony was another great one - meadow has to know that violence will occur because of it, but she's come to terms with how her family lives - she's dating a fellow mobster's son.

rbdog - somehow i'm thinking more the end of king lear than hamlet - but the two are very similar, i suppose.

[NicksDad1970]

In the preview for the next episode they showed a guy pointing a gun at someone at the front door of someones house. Was that the same guy who was ona date with Meadow?

[Dids]

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I think Dids knows this, but misunderstood the poster's "I think they're different guy."



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So, he's either "horrible at watching TV" or horrible at reading other people's posts. At least I'm vindicated. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Much worse at reading than at watching TV. I'm excellent at TV [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Brocktoon]

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the scene with meadow, carmela, and tony was another great one - meadow has to know that violence will occur because of it, but she's come to terms with how her family lives - she's dating a fellow mobster's son.



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I thought this was the most powerful scene of the episode.