is there such a thing as an online tournament poker pro ?

[odellthurman]

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Guys, just stop posting and feeding the troll. He's only doing this to get attention. Might as well close the thread.

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I don't agree with a lot of the OP's points, but I don't know why that makes him a troll. It's actually an interesting topic of inquiry, with the main problem being that we can't know with any degree of certainty how much anyone makes. This thread is at least as good as another sweat thread or another thread on plans for meeting up at the next tournament.

I don't understand the reactions to the OP's posts in this thread.

[Soulman]

Baltostar,

your figures are obviously totally out of the window. Bax made $537k from january 2006 up until today. This is from Stars only, no other sites (don't know which he plays myself) or live.

I think I "might" be able to live with making $380k a year...

[dcviperboy]

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Umm like no software engineers make 300k, very very few anyway. You're looking at 80k tops intro and kind of a low ceiling.

Plus, coding really blows, and poker does not. Actually, poker does blow, but at least it's more enjoyable than being a code monkey.

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As an ex-software engineer who is now an online tournament pro I can safely Q this for MFT, even though I think OP was probably trolling at least a little.

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I went to school for CS and realized my sophomore year I was never going to be able to handle sitting in front of a computer coding all day for a job, especially with such limited advancement opportunities in the field. I was looking at working 60 hour or more weeks and intro salaries under 100k with a cap of probably only 150k or so, [censored] that [censored] I want to be balla

Now I sit in front of the computer all day anyway, but at least it's kinda by choice.

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QFTMFT

i'm still working on the last part [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[baltostar]

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Baltostar,

your figures are obviously totally out of the window. Bax made $537k from january 2006 up until today. This is from Stars only, no other sites (don't know which he plays myself) or live.

I think I "might" be able to live with making $380k a year...

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It's the $/hr figures that are important. To figure that you need (1) some good stats on total profit for a large sample size of tournies played (we have that) and (2) you have to make some assumptions about avg hrs per tourney, and avg # tables played at once.

I don't think I'm far off in my calc of $100/hr.

Do the math. Bax is making in the neighborhood of $100/hr from online tourney poker. I know a charge nurse that makes $100/hr. Most charge/OR nurses make up towards $100/hr.

The key point is that Bax is the best in the business. It's all downhill from him.

[tendog]

ha ha 300K is tons of money for anyone who does not work in finance in NYC. Like top .01 percent money. oh and Rizen and Bax probably both won 500K in live donkaments last year.

[NHFunkii]

I'd be very surprised if the avg tourney was 3 hours, and I'd be very surprised if bax's MT ratio was lower than 4. your assumptions are wack.

[wpr101]

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Actually, 225 tournies is a pretty good representative sample size. Bax's total tournies for 1st 5.5 months of 2007 is 569.

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pok...5A21C072E4.html

Bax is tracking to make $300k pre-taxes from online tournies in 2007. $300K is about the avg starting salary of an options trader on the street. No wonder Strasser is headed in that direction.

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i am making far less than 300k next year

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Yeah no way do you make 300k starting. I have friends who work for Goldman and Bear Stearns and I know they don't make that much.

Also, OP have you ever thought of quality of life? The player you are talking about has kids and being able to play at home might be a huge advantage to him rather than working a 60+ hour week on wall st.

[baltostar]

First: do you think when someone like Bax is deep in a tourney, like 5-6 hrs deep, and busted out of the others, they fire up some more tournies to keep their multi-tabling productivity high? So ... are you saying they never go to sleep ?

Second, you think the best guys get that good by overextending themselves ? You can watch PXF vids and hear Rizen talk about how he needs to shut down his cash games now because he's made it deep in a tourney.

People play in sessions. They try to schedule the sessions to play a bunch of big tournies simultaneously. Sheets talks about his: how he spends Sunday with his family and then late afternoon/early evening starts up the poker.

The lower the avg time per tourney , the lower the avg # tables being played. The two balance each other out.

Justify your disagreement with some logical arguments.

[THAY3R]

It's impossible to argue with you logically when you are just fundamentally retarded.

[THAY3R]

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Guys,

I just closed all of my accounts, and will be applying for a software job tomorrow morning.

Trip report to come!

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UPDATE :

I woke up today at noon, lol [censored] the real world.