You have a dream...

[Sephus]

in general, intelligent people do both.

i criticized your form rather than your content because you don't need a sense of subtlety to see your error.

[WiiiiiiMan]

My post about his intelligence was obviously extreme cause how could I know, I was just mocking his assumption about my views he made, you don't need a sense of subtlety to see that's what I meant but it would be helpful if you take your head out of ur ass and eat some more grammer crackers.

[Sephus]

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My post about his intelligence was obviously extreme cause how could I know

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sometimes it's obvious.

[FortunaMaximus]

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My post about his intelligence was obviously extreme cause how could I know, I was just mocking his assumption about my views he made, you don't need a sense of subtlety to see that's what I meant but it would be helpful if you take your head out of ur ass and eat some more grammer crackers.

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And it'd be helpful if you expounded on your statement instead of reacting to sarcasm in an unintelligent fashion. Mockery makes an idiot of the individual that reacts to it.

IOW, look at what you have contributed thus far in this thread. If you had more to say regarding the subject, say it?

Off to fling more poo and ponder troll entropy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[DougShrapnel]

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The hypothetical situation is so extreme that it is pretty much impossible to answer. Assuming that the soccer team looks an sounds exactly like you remember it in your dream, it's just so unlikely that that would ever happen. Maybe even impossible from a practical point of view. So I think the hypothetical is so farfetched that if that situation did comme up then it would supersede all of my previously held beliefs about this kind of thing and I really would have no way if knowing what to do until the moment arrived. I'm trying to think of a good analogy but one isn't coming to me.

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wtf are you talking about? its not a hypotehtetical. i had a dream i was on a plane that went down. one of my memories from the dream is that i was surrounded by a girls soccer team and i was comforting one of the girls as it went down.

i have a flight a week later, and i tell my friend about the dream as he is driving me to the airport. in the terminal waiting for the plane a girls soccer team, of about the same age from the dream, is waiting for the same flight.

this forum is ridiculous. do you guys get off on making everything more complicated than need be?

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results?

[Victor]

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The hypothetical situation is so extreme that it is pretty much impossible to answer. Assuming that the soccer team looks an sounds exactly like you remember it in your dream, it's just so unlikely that that would ever happen. Maybe even impossible from a practical point of view. So I think the hypothetical is so farfetched that if that situation did comme up then it would supersede all of my previously held beliefs about this kind of thing and I really would have no way if knowing what to do until the moment arrived. I'm trying to think of a good analogy but one isn't coming to me.

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wtf are you talking about? its not a hypotehtetical. i had a dream i was on a plane that went down. one of my memories from the dream is that i was surrounded by a girls soccer team and i was comforting one of the girls as it went down.

i have a flight a week later, and i tell my friend about the dream as he is driving me to the airport. in the terminal waiting for the plane a girls soccer team, of about the same age from the dream, is waiting for the same flight.

this forum is ridiculous. do you guys get off on making everything more complicated than need be?

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Jeez, sorry man. I was focusing on the part of the original post that was using "you" language, and I forgot about the first sentence about it happening to his roommate.

Anyway, from my perspective it's still a hypothetical problem because I don't recall ever dreaming about something and then having it happen in real life the exact same way. However now that I have heard about this reverse construct thing, I would just take the flight anyway. I don't consider myself to have any special powers of seeing the future or anything like that.

And, FWIW, I haven't heard about any passenger planes crashing recently, and they usually make headlines on the news, so I'm assuming that the plane didn't crash afterall.

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ok, i guess it is a hypothetical to you. but i disagree that its extreme and impossible to answer.

i got on the plane and didnt seriously consider the alternative. obv everything was fine and i got to my destination.

[DougShrapnel]

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i got on the plane and didnt seriously consider the alternative. obv everything was fine and i got to my destination.

[/ QUOTE ] i have a couple questions? If you don't mind. How unlikely is it that you would have a dream about a girls soccer team on your plane, and see a girls soccer team on your plane? Did you question around the team while on the plane to try and console one of the girls? Why is this question only interesting regarding the crash senario and not the consoling aspect? I mean should one just discount the entire story if the plane crashed, yet you didn't try to console any of the girls? How often do your dreams become realized? At what number of past dreams coming true do you not get on the plane?

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imagine if you didn't trust your feelings, I wonder how you would think about things. hmmmmmmmmmmm, if you can't trust yourself then I guess no thing or being or person has a chance.

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Yep, trusting your feelings 100%, all the time, with absolutely no exceptions is clearly the best strategy towards a happy life.


BET IT ALL ON BLACK BABY!!!!!

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You know you are of flawed mind when someone says something and you interpret that as 100% all the time with no exceptions. That sir is called extreme thought process and is textbook in this forum. You don't see if cause your not balanced.

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Haha, the irony. We are giving an example of a time when we would not trust our feelings, and your argument is "If you cannot trust your feelings, what can you trust?" I was making fun of you for doing exactly what you are now criticizing. We do trust our feelings, much of the time. This is an extreme case, and only an idiot (probably) would trust his feelings in this case. Thats the whole point. So, you saying we should trust our feelings is either saying a) We should trust our feelings 100% of the time no matter what, because this is the absolute most extreme case of trusting our feelings and if we should do so in this case we should certainly do so in all other cases, or b) your comment was totally meaningless and not applicable to the current situtaion.

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Your not very intelligent, don't fool yourself into thinking you are. You strike me as a sad person, not unhappy sad, but a sad portrayal of a man.

Your not one of our best, you wouldn't represent us well sir.

That's my opinion of you and I trust those impressions.

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One of OUR best? What does that mean? And I may very well be a sad man....but I am happy as a clam most of the time. So, I guess I will leave the greatness to those who better deserve it. After all, I have only what God gave me to work with. We can't all be you.

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My post about his intelligence was obviously extreme cause how could I know, I was just mocking his assumption about my views he made, you don't need a sense of subtlety to see that's what I meant but it would be helpful if you take your head out of ur ass and eat some more grammer crackers.

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I made not a single assumption about any of your points. I criticized them on their own merits, or lack thereof.

[luckyme]

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However now that I have heard about this reverse construct thing, I would just take the flight anyway. I don't consider myself to have any special powers of seeing the future or anything like that.

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This is a tangent that arose and not a direct comment on the OP specific case other than as a model.

It's a rather Humean situation. Do you conclude that some fairly normal mind-game is involved in a low probability situation and that is the likeliest explanation or do we conclude that the universe works in ways totally novel to how we conceptualize it and time is shiftable or messages are coming from the future or ???...

To play around with the 'Reverse Construct' thing --
we get the the airport and we see one of these-
a) a girls soccer team roughly the age of our dream team,
but with different color tops.
b) a girls baseball team identical looking to our dream.
c) a girls soccer team, but only 4 of them.
d) a soccer team, same age, same uniform, same number but boys.

That was the necessity for very specific predictions, we morph things into 'yep, that's the dream scenario' when actually it's only 'in the ballpark'.

It's one reason why eyewitnesses are so notoriously unreliable. The actuality blows back over our memory ( dream or real) and we fill in vagueness with the new specifics and say 'oh, yeah'.

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