Paul Wasicka's AA fold in HSP

[Marnixvdb]

Maybe im mistaken but this seems like a really easy fold to me.

[Ellsworth T]

I think another reason Wasicka folded and what was slightly alluded to in this post is the fact that if he calls his range will be much more narrow. You can argue that if he calls his opponents may put him on a draw but that also makes it difficult for his hand on future streets. whether or not the players around him are good enough to discern Wasicka's hand ranges and put him to the test is another question.

Also, I do agree Wasicka should have raised in this spot given how active he appeared to be playing given the rebroadcast of hands, but I think he was playing a great solid style and he obviously choose this time to mix up his game a bit. It would not have been uncommon to have someone like Negreanu or Eli or Sammy raise to 3500ish or more and have 3 callers behind them, not to mention if any of the them pick up hands they have a horribly difficult time folding to a reraise. I think that a lot of people are being results oriented in terms of criticizing his limp, especially given the number of callers that Wasicka was receiving from his raises. They were usually selective in their hands when playing him and that may have swung the pendulum in Wasicka's mind to limp raise.

[USC@MICH]

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no one who claimed they'd fold AA here would actually do it

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, do you really belive that?

[antipeon]

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no one who claimed they'd fold AA here would actually do it

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so true, it's amazing how everyone claims they would fold but nobody that they would move in or call. pathetic.

[FiSheYe]

You guys shouldn't overrate Wasicka here. His laydown was good but he should have raise it. So I think it wasn't a good play but after his pf mistake he played well and made a hard/weak but good fold.
Ppl who say this is a tough field, it definately isn't. There are far more donkies in that game than on most highlimit games of this kind. I think it's actually a very easy table compared to the stakes.
I assume Wasicka isn't skillwise much better than 10/20NL yet, still he is one of the best players there, simply because the competition is bad.

I don't try to say most of those HSP legends aren't good, but compared to the lvl they are playing at they aren't that good anymore.

[Statutory]

Preflop Limp is terrible. Every other hand is unraised/minraised 7 to the flop. Its obvious hes gonna set off a string of limpers.

Post flop fold is standard if you mislclick and limp preflop.

[LBK]

Why raise it? He got aces in early position at a table full of cash donks who raise any 2 typically. He was unlucky that they all limped in. When Brunson bet out and Paul had to make a early position call or riase he opted to fold with so many players ahead yet to act. He made a sensible play IMO. I would have loved to see Sammy raise all of the limpers and see him call Pauls reraise like the donk Sammy is. Paul actually did reraise Sammy in a similar pot (although Sammy was acting before Paul in the other hand) and Sammy got away from the flop bet fairly quick.

In that game, you limp big hands early position IMO. Obviously this hand plays itself differently at a tighter table. How people can question his fold is beyond me.

[mo42nyy]

raising utg here would be awful
almost every pot was raised pre
farha is a total donk the other time wasiak had aa farha makes it 10 k to go and wasika makes it 20 k
farha calls with only 20 k more behind with a total pos hand
On that hand I thought wasiak played it terrible he should let farha bluff his stack off
on this one anyone who says they would fold is full of [censored]
Its not a bad play but it just isnt what 99.999% of people would do

[LBK]

"I don't try to say most of those HSP legends aren't good, but compared to the lvl they are playing at they aren't that good anymore."

I think it's worth discussing how bad most of these name pros are at NL. I realize the game they typically play in is a capped limit/stud variation but still. They make some ridiculously poor decisions in certain spots I would think they were more apt not to make. ::Shrug::

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There was a gigantic thread involving DS playing aces like this somewhere a while ago. I don't see anything else he can do after the limp when SB bets into 6 people.

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When I read OP, I immediately thought of the Sklansky thread. I then spent about 20 minutes searching for it and could not find it.

Can anyone else find it? I think it was almost the exact same situation as here, and maybe Annie Duke was the big blind he listed.

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It was a tournament hand, a 10k event I think. Jennifer Harman was the BB and I almost want to say Sklansky actually overlimped the AA (but I could have that part wrong). In a donkament I'd be more inclined to call because people lead one pair so much more there than they do here. Here I think the flop fold is good; you're only getting significant money in if you're beat, and let's not forget that there are 4 or 5 people still to act behind you. It's just not a profitable situation.