Please post your favorite Bible verses here

[DougShrapnel]

Matty 27:46 and about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani!

[NotReady]

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that would be no indication that they don't hate Satan even more


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They may hate satan more but still want him to win since he's the underdog. If satan can defeat God there would be hope that man can defeat satan and accomplish his true objective, becoming God.

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I agree with you that it is for virtually all rational people with an accurate understanding of him


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Very few atheists have an accurate understanding of God. Those that do hate Him the most because He is God and they aren't.

[vhawk01]

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that would be no indication that they don't hate Satan even more


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They may hate satan more but still want him to win since he's the underdog. If satan can defeat God there would be hope that man can defeat satan and accomplish his true objective, becoming God.

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I agree with you that it is for virtually all rational people with an accurate understanding of him


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Very few atheists have an accurate understanding of God. Those that do hate Him the most because He is God and they aren't.

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This is presupposing, of course, that YOU are the arbiter of the correct understanding of God.

[NotReady]

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This is presupposing, of course, that YOU are the arbiter of the correct understanding of God.


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This is a really tired, trite attack.

What I mean is God's self-revelation in both nature and His word.

[madnak]

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They may hate satan more but still want him to win since he's the underdog. If satan can defeat God there would be hope that man can defeat satan and accomplish his true objective, becoming God.

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If Satan can defeat God, then he's not the underdog.

[vhawk01]

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This is presupposing, of course, that YOU are the arbiter of the correct understanding of God.


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This is a really tired, trite attack.

What I mean is God's self-revelation in both nature and His word.

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I don't get it. Your previous post was assumedly an attack on atheists, claiming that they very rarely understand God, and this is the reason for their dislike of him. Well, thats an airtight argument, as long as the only way you can really understand God is to consider him to be the greatest guy ever.

Sorry if it was trite, but can you explain how I could possibly demonstrate that I have an accurate view of God and still maintain he is a jerk? If thats impossible, then my criticism stands.

[NotReady]

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I don't get it.


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The tired attack I'm referring to is claiming I'm arrogant, that Christians think they're right because they're better than everyone, etc.

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can you explain how I could possibly demonstrate that I have an accurate view of God and still maintain he is a jerk? If thats impossible, then my criticism stands.


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You could be accurate about Him and think He's a jerk because you're wrong about what constitues jerkhood. Kinda the way satan probably feels about Him. Satan is somewhat accurate about God, but satan is the foolish one.

[Prodigy54321]

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They may hate satan more but still want him to win since he's the underdog. If satan can defeat God there would be hope that man can defeat satan and accomplish his true objective, becoming God.


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do you really not understand why this doesn't make sense?

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Very few atheists have an accurate understanding of God.

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as I already said...it is true that most atheists don't think of God in the same way that Christians do...

why is that?..again, I would say that it is because it is easy to see that God is actually repulsive when you look at it objectively and are not pressured to think of Him as good

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Those that do hate Him the most because He is God and they aren't.

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while I think this is true, it is misleading.

it's true that anyone with any type of decent morality can do a better job with those powers than the Christian god supposedly has.

so I guess it is natural for most people to rather have themselves as God than the actual God that is causing such great suffering..

but it is not some arbitrary 'want' to be God..I think most atheists would agree that it would be best for no one to have such power given such relative morality.

but if it's between me or the Christian god....I'd choose myself..or anyone of about 99.9% of the population of Earth.

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EDIT: call this all just my misunderstand of God if you will..but I call it being objective, rather than being afraid of what may happen to me if I don't believe that he is such a great guy.

[Al Mirpuri]

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So, are bible verses considered science, math or philosophy?


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Philosophy is a branch of theology. Science can't really escape ultimate questions, though it claims to.

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This is either incorrect or not provable. The ancient Greeks were doing philosophy 2500 years ago independently of any kind of theism.

[madnak]

If I were God, you'd all get your own personal pocket universes. And maybe there'd be some kind of plaza where we could get together and play poker, drink beer.