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Old 02-06-2007, 02:31 AM
JSchnett JSchnett is offline
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

I will praise Anurag Dikshit and give sacrifice to the BBV gods if I see my money in my bank account in 3-6 months.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

I am not terribly familiar with all the powers that the FBI has but I would like to know how its possible for the FBI to seize Neteller funds?

Can the FBI go into any bank in the world and seize funds belonging to U.S. citizens whenever they wish?

I can only see 2 possible scenarios as of now:

1. Neteller has VOLUNTARILY given the FBI control of their U.S. accounts (which means the money wasn't really seized).

2. All of the funds are currently in these so called trust accounts and all of these stories are completely untrue.

If there are any lawyers out here who are familiar with U.S. law, feel free to chime in at any time.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

I'm no lawyer, but I think the government pretty much can seize your funds if they want, they just have to accuse you of some sort of wrong doing.

AKA if they suspect you are a drug dealer or financing terrorists or something, they can seize your funds.

If you get cleared of the charges you get your money back but that could take years.

It's kind of a guilty until proven innocent sorta deal, which sucks.

Basically I don't think the government can touch our individual funds without accusing us individually of wrong doing.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

I definitely can see how the FBI could seize funds from within the U.S.

However, as far as I know, Neteller's trust accounts are NOT with U.S. financial institutions.

Can the FBI seize money whenever they wish from financial institutions NOT located in the U.S.?

Taking the extreme example of a drug dealer who has say a Swiss bank account? If U.S. authorities found out about this Swiss account, could they seize all the funds? Would the Swiss bank automatically comply with the FBI and send them all proceeds from that account?
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

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I'm no lawyer, but I think the government pretty much can seize your funds if they want, they just have to accuse you of some sort of wrong doing.

AKA if they suspect you are a drug dealer or financing terrorists or something, they can seize your funds.

If you get cleared of the charges you get your money back but that could take years.

It's kind of a guilty until proven innocent sorta deal, which sucks.

Basically I don't think the government can touch our individual funds without accusing us individually of wrong doing.

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so the question is is it legal for us to play online poker in US? i am confused... if it is legal, then no way the government can seize our money.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:09 AM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

They probably asked Neteller to freeze funds and Neteller voluntarily did and the whole "seized" line is what they are feeding their customters.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

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They probably asked Neteller to freeze funds and Neteller voluntarily did and the whole "seized" line is what they are feeding their customters.

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They don't seem to be feeding their customers much of anything...But maybe that's just me.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

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They probably asked Neteller to freeze funds and Neteller voluntarily did and the whole "seized" line is what they are feeding their customters.

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They probably haven't done anything with the funds or we would have heard about it from somewhere other than a couple of poorly-written newspaper articles devoid of any real sources.

If they actually HAD seized funds, the DOJ would be telling everyone who would listen so they could spook the "evil" gamblers; and Neteller likewise, so they could get the players with money in their accounts off their backs.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

After working 10 years for the government in several countries you can all sleep better knowing the US government CANNOT seize any funds in a foregin bank account regardless of the reason. If it is a US friendly country that government could freeze or seize accounts at our request but it has never happened. Been through this over and over with known drug money.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Guardian newspaper confirms FBI seizure of some Neteller funds.

Quick suggestion to Mike Haven...instead of locking all other Neteller threads, would it be possible to merge them into this one (at least ones that aren't entirely repetitive)? I know that's how they do it on some other forums, but I don't know if this software is capable.
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