LT AP's MVP

[Spellmen]

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Couldn't he break it next year? He didn't play that well in the last 2 games of the year.

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He's gotten pretty heavy work the past 3 years so I doubt he breaks it. I don't think he will break down as quickly as some other RBs, but this will almost certainly be his peak

[.Alex.]

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No team depends on a player more than the Colts depend on Peyton. Every year he's the best QB in the league. What more could you want?

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Nothing. I root for Manning and think he is the best player in football. I've been pleasantly surprised that the media has given him a lot of praise this year and has stopped blaming him for "not being able to win the big game."

That has nothing to do with my point though.

[Jack of Arcades]

Well, then... what is your point? Because you didn't exactly make one.

[.Alex.]

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Well, then... what is your point? Because you didn't exactly make one.

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Determining MVP awards using DVOA is wrong because a QB would win every year.

[capone0]

It was broken TWICE in the last 3 years. Yet it won't happen in 15 years. Give me a break. It'll probally be broken again soon enough, maybe a couple of times. You act like this is the home run record or something that hasn't been broken or approached often. LT has had 31 tds, 20 tds and 18 the last 3. SA before this year had 28, 20, 16, 18 (total TDs), Holmes had 24 27 in 2 consecutive years.

Faulk had 26, 21 in 2 consecutive years. This record can be broken.

[.Alex.]

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It was broken TWICE in the last 3 years. Yet it won't happen in 15 years. Give me a break. It'll probally be broken again soon enough, maybe a couple of times. You act like this is the home run record or something that hasn't been broken or approached often. LT has had 31 tds, 20 tds and 18 the last 3. SA before this year had 28, 20, 16, 18 (total TDs), Holmes had 24 27 in 2 consecutive years.

Faulk had 26, 21 in 2 consecutive years. This record can be broken.

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Scoring doesn't really change much over the years, so there has to be a peak with these types of records. I think we've reached it.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Well, then... what is your point? Because you didn't exactly make one.

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Determining MVP awards using DVOA is wrong because a QB would win every year.

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As it is, the only people who win it are QBs and RBs. The last guy to win the AP MVP that wasn't either was LT.

Hell, only 15 RBs have won it in history. 31 have won it, including that split vote between Peyton and McNair. It seems to me that the writers already acknowledge that QBs are about twice as valuable, but only voted for LT because he broke a year old record. Wheeeee.

Edit: Jamal Lewis didn't even win it when he rushed for 2000 yards.

[capone0]

Why? I don't understand your reasoning at all. You just think we've reached it because, because. Honestly, if LT had to play harder the last 2 games he could have had 35+. And your saying with probally a similar team and maybe an improved QB, he can't possibly do this again? I don't understand why this is the peak? The # of TDS from the top guy in the league lately seems to be growing each year. I guess it could be the peak, but who knows. I don't think just after this year you can say "well, that's as high as it'll go."

[SL__72]

Sorry for keeping this going as it is obviously going in circles, but can anyone actually try and give me an argument that LDT was actually MORE VALUABLE then Peyton this year? Does anyone even believe that?

[capone0]

CAUSE HE SCORED 31 TDS MAN, YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS. 31 TDS, MOST IMPORTANT STAT IS TDS. TDS, TDS, TDS.