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#61
12-01-2006, 02:29 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are pullups really that hard for people? I haven't really worked out in a year, but I'm sure I could do 10 no problem. [/ QUOTE ] it depends how much you weigh. In those presidential fitness test or whatever we did in school all of the really skinny kids did the most pull ups. In padre over sb the army had a pull up thing set up where if you got 20 you got a free shirt or something and almost no one even came close. If you havent worked out in a year I would almost guarantee you couldnt do 10 correctly [/ QUOTE ]On this: NO ONE -- and I mean 0% of people, tall, short, skinny, fat, whatever -- can jump up on a pullup bar and do 20 correct pullups without being involved in some sort of fitness regimen, whether that's weights, body-weight exercises, or rassling cattle. People don't get up off their couch after 20 years and knock out significant numbers of pullups based on body type alone, but isn't this sort of the point? [/ QUOTE ] exactly! before I started training seriously, I worked out pretty much 3-4 times a week ... and the first day of my new workout regiment, I could do 7 pullups. I thought I was in decent shape too! 7 pullups! wtf! (5'9" 175 lbs) 
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#62
12-01-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
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ugh i dont even know if i can do 30 pushups anymore its been so long. im gonna try right now but ill probably ralph. [/ QUOTE ] another to keep in mind is that a lot of people (pretty everyone I know who doesn't have pushups as part of their regular workout), do pushups incorrectly. Palms need to be a little more than shoulder width apart, and you need to go down almost all the way (i usually touch, but during tests, you need to hit someone's fist), and back up, all the way
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#64
12-01-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
MensHealth's List of Things a Fit Man Can Do:
1) Bench 1.5 times bodyweight 2) Run 1.5 miles in 10 minutes 3) Touch the rim on a basketball goal 4) Leg press 2.25 times bodyweight 5) Swim 700 yards in 12 minutes 6) Do 40 pushups 7) Run 300 yards in one minute 8) Touch toes 9) Through a basketball 75 feet (from knees)
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#66
12-01-2006, 02:33 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
I can do 41 correct pushups in 2 minutes (51 is maxing out for girls) but 0 pullups. What does that make me-and don't say out of shape I'm just genuinely wondering why one doesn't = the other.
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#67
12-01-2006, 02:34 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There should be a speed component, like 100m in under a certain time. [/ QUOTE ]Except that speed and fitness have nothing to do with one another. The Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test is a good one. Dead-hang pullups (hands either way, can switch midway so long as you don't dismount the bar), crunches (2 minutes), and a 3-mile run. A 300 (perfect score) requires 20 pullups, 100 crunches, and an 18 minute run. Obviously anyone who scores a 300 is in excellent shape, not just ok, average-adult-guy shape. Generally a 225 ("1st class") is considered "passing," though that's very much below average in the Marine Corps. Scoring works like this: *5 points per pullup *1 point per crunch *-1 point for every ten seconds over 18:00 on run So, for example, if I do 13 pullups, 85 crunches, and run a 22:00, that's (65) + (85) + (76) = 226. [/ QUOTE ] Jeebus, running 3 miles in 18 minutes sounds almost impossible. Seriously, you would have to be in peak physical condition to do that. [/ QUOTE ] Thats why the absolute most points you can get is based on running 3 miles in 18 minutes. [/ QUOTE ] Minimum scores to pass each event in this test is 3 pull ups, 50 crunches and 28:00 min run time. However, if you do the minimum for each, you will fail the test. Scores are also adjusted as you get older. Under 27yrold, 225 points for a first class, 27 to 35 is 200 points for first class, 36 and up, 180 points. Minimum passing score is 150. Not sure what the rest of the scores are adjusted to. Run time for the avg person is around 10 mins a mile. Avg person can do 4 pull ups and 40 crunches.
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#68
12-01-2006, 02:34 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
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I bet lots of ppl would struggle to do 30 "legit" pushups. [/ QUOTE ] this isn't me being an e-dick, but when i was in shape in high school i could churn out 50 pushups no problem. 4 years and no exercise later and 25 is doable but very hard, same for situps although i've gotten much better with them. so the push-ups number looks good. honestly even 3 pull-ups might be hard for an out of shape person especially with palms out, there's no way i could do 3 now. i wonder if i could even do 1?
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#70
12-01-2006, 02:37 PM
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Re: Lets come up with a test of basic fitness.
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How many pullups you can do is pretty closely correlated to your weight AND YOUR BACK [/ QUOTE ] Not many people have strong backs, unless they work out. Having a strong back is important for good pullup performance.
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