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#62
11-18-2006, 11:26 PM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
Islam is growing because people believe in it, but how did it start? By one founder who gained power and wealth because of it during his lifetime.
Christianity is growing because people believe in it, but how did the Church start? By numerous founders who lost their lives because of it. Which one is more likely to be true? 
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#64
11-18-2006, 11:43 PM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
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Islam is growing because people believe in it, but how did it start? By one founder who gained power and wealth because of it during his lifetime. Christianity is growing because people believe in it, but how did the Church start? By numerous founders who lost their lives because of it. Which one is more likely to be true? [/ QUOTE ] So Islam was founded by one man and grew because people believed in it, and Christianity was founded by one man and grew because people believed in it. (correct me if I'm wrong here. I don't claim to be all that knowledgable about Christianity. But it's my understanding that Christianity branched off from Judaism after Christ. They even use the same bibles except for the NT). So the big difference you seem to be clinging to is that some of the early church founders died because of their beliefs. Is there anything else? Do you have anything more? Do you know for a fact that none of the early Muslims died because of what they believed? Some of them certainly seem willing to die for their beliefs now, don't they? Even if ZERO Mulsims died because of their beliefs (and I doubt that and I'll try to look into early Islam when I more time), it STILL doesn't place significant weight on Christianity being the one and only correct religion! The problem here, is that you're unwilling to step outside of your beliefs for even one second and take a look around from ANY other different perspective. So it's hard to keep up a logical dialog with you, because you're arguments are all based on presuppositions which you're not willing to let go of long enough to look at things objectively.
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#65
11-18-2006, 11:49 PM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
Biblical archaeologist William Foxwell Albright in a Christianity Today interview, January 18, 1963:
"In my opinion, every book of the New Testament was written by a baptized Jew between the forties and the eighties of the first century A.D. (very probably sometime between A.D. 50 and 75)...Thanks to the Qumran discoveries, the New Testament proves to be in fact what it was formerly believed to be: the teachings of Christ and his immediate followers between cir.25 and cir.80 A.D."
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#66
11-18-2006, 11:55 PM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
The founders of the church were in the immediate position to know if they were dying for a false belief.
Early Muslims were not in the position to know if they were dying for a false belief because their belief was directly reliant on the truth of Mohammed's visions.
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#68
11-18-2006, 11:58 PM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
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I'm asking for theories, if it is false, as to why that may be and how christianity grew in spite of that. So far nobody has come forward with such a theory. [/ QUOTE ] alright... Jesus lived..at some point he and others believed that he was the son of god since he aparently fulfilled preophecies and such...he had mroe and more followers...he got crucified..later on, stories of his life and death were told and eventually written down even hunreds of years later..the religion grew... sweet theory, eh?...that's my best guess since we have close to no knowledge of what actually happened.
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#69
11-19-2006, 12:00 AM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
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The founders of the church were in the immediate position to know if they were dying for a false belief. [/ QUOTE ] how so?
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#70
11-19-2006, 12:06 AM
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Re: Do you agree with the following statement?
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I'm asking for theories. Simple as that. [/ QUOTE ] You're not. You're suggesting that there's some problem that requires in depth historical knowledge to resolve. There simply isn't any such problem. Its just a tactic that you use again and again to try to obsure the nature of your unreasonable beliefs (or as you like the weight of DS's words: moronic beliefs). chez
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