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Old 11-10-2006, 07:17 PM
wacki wacki is offline
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Default Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

This man was "arrested on suspicion of using violence or threats to prevent an officer from performing his duty and was charged with two counts of resisting arrest". I don't know what that means but it sounds like a loud mouthed protester.

Full story:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-ex-beating110906,0,2761547.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Video of cops beating dude while he's saying "i can't breath":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVW5_PJHzR4

Yes this is a serious question as the comments seem to be pretty split on other news sources.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

WTF? Isn't that why they have pepper spray? I'm not an expert on police procedure, but I don't think pounding the dude in the face is standard.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

If I think "overzealous protester" when watching this, I don't like it.

If I think "dude took a swing at a police" when watching, I enjoy it.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

its [censored] up either way


i would love to get a few people, hold the cop down like hes a 10yr old getting a spanking, and give him a few (cum)shots to the face to see how he likes it
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

What we see there doesn't look good. I would really like to see the rest of the video.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

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What we see there doesn't look good. I would really like to see the rest of the video.

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Agreed. I'd like to see what happened before two police were trying to get this person under control.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

Based on the video, this is way too excessive. There are other ways to get someone to comply rather than putting a knee to his throat and punching him in the face. All the officer had to do was stand up, pull up on the guy's arm and drag him to make him go onto his stomach.

We don't know what happened before that, but in the article it says, "There is no denying that the video is disturbing," Bratton said. "But as to whether the actions of the officers were appropriate in light of what they were experiencing, and the totality of the circumstances, is what the investigation will determine."

and that is what is really the truth. The "totality of the circumstances" is the key word.

However, this is pretty excessive to any means. There are a lot more ways to make this guy comply.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Excessive force? Or the bastard deserved it?

the clip is a bit short and out of context, but i will say this...

If you can say "I can't breath..."...YOU CAN BREATH
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:38 PM
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If you can say "I can't breathe..."...YOU CAN BREATHE

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first thing I thought of.

Cops shouldn't be punching the guy when he's down like that, even if he is an ass.
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:58 AM
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If you can say "I can't breath..."...YOU CAN BREATH

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Clearly there are degrees of being able to breathe though and when someone has their knee on your throat I'm guessing you're more at the can't breathe end of the spectrum than the can breathe end.
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