The Well: Whale

[n1nj4.br]

How do u deal with shortstackers?

Do u cbet them less? Any special strategy against them?

[Motorcycle Mike]

Thanks for your time and input. Both are appreciated!!

2 quick questions for you:

1. You mentioned BR mgmt and moving up and down as a big part of your improvement. I'm wondering if this also includes having a bigger role than the normal 20-30 buyins for your current level, and/or not taking a shot until you reach a certain BR level?

2. (add on to Hitnrun's ?) With the tighter style, are you sticking to the normal 4BB + 1 per limper, or are you raising more or less in certain situations, like the example you used with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] vs. button steal above?

Thanks again!

[kazana]

I've recently started to pay more attention to villains' reactions on cbets (fold, call, and raise cbets).

Now, if villain folds 50% or more, it's straight-forward.
But how do you handle these types of villains (OOP and in position):
a) raises cbets often (30%, 50%, or even 70%)
b) calls cbets very often (50%+)

Are there any general strategies against these guys or does this depend a lot on other reads? I seem to make my biggest mistakes in HU situations against these types.

[BalugaWhale]

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Hi Whale

Tks for doing this. let me say congratulations on your success since your analysis of a downswing episode -you've certainly boomeranged back. It's good to see you back posting again after your summer break too.

Some good questions so far . I've got a few...

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3) reading villains and taking advantage of what I know they have (i.e. vs. a donk villain, if you have 44 and the flop is AA4, and you bet the flop and he calls, I usually just open push any turn cause they're not folding)




Any more examples, particularly vs OKish players do you find they have more defined ranges?

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not sure I understand your question, but I am usually not cbetting vs 2 opponents.
5) Not cbetting into multiple opponents (this helped my game/winrate a ton)




Interesting. I cbet vs 2 opponents sometimes but I suspect too much as it sound like you v. rarely do this- when do you consider/factors it appropriate to cbet 3way?(NL50/Nl100) if stakes relevant.

Sometimes I check,it's checked through then I 'Cbet' turn and am often called is this spewy since PPs are likely to call?

Do you play AJo KQo OOP UTG and reraise Ak/AQo in blinds vs EP raiser?

Almost last question. I asked Pokey in the well about value betting the river, so I'll be interested in your views too.

This situation below I think I may be mising value.
Say for example(contrived)
100bb stacks
Villan PFR UTG 20/10/2 TAGGY player
Hero calls with SC on BTN.
Villan cbets 2tone flop (assume he holds an overpair/2pair), Hero calls.
he checks the turn, I bet 2/3pot and have hit my str8 on the turn. He calls.
River completes the frush (Hero doesn't hold). Villan checks.

Now can I bet my str8 for value given there's a flush on the board. Would worse hands call i.e an overpair/2pair?


In you opinion how have FT /players changed post Frist?
Baluga after your short break, how are your business ventures going?
Hope you enjoy college/uni (whatever it's called in the States) and don't play too much poker
- I'm sure if the online poker thing had happened when I was at Uni I would've lost time playing than doing other fun stuff with friends though it's probably nice to be a college balla



Sorry to ask so many poker questions and make so much use of you.

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Another example: You have AA, you raise, are called. Flop is Q22. You bet, and are called. Turn is a K. Because KQ is SUCH a huge part of his range, I am likely to c/r the turn AI or just start potting the turn and river (or often overbet pushing the river). Part of that is hand rading though, and knowing that he has KQ.

Cbetting vs multiple opponents without any cards at low stakes is just as spewy as it is in MSNL, probably more so.

I raise AJo and KQo UTG. They are good enough easily imo. I usually am reraising AKo at all times. AQo I often flat call if an UTG raises and one person calls, just because I know if I raise and am called, I am destroyed. I often reraise too in a variety of situations.

You should've raised your straight on the flop if you think he has an overpair and is likely to get it in, especially on a drawy board. As played, yes value bet the river, especially at uNL because people have a very very hard time folding anything down here.

FT is great, probably better than ever imo.
Business is alright, still very early.

[munkey]

Thanks for the replies.

Just another question.[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Myself, kazana RedCashion, Matrix and probably others are making movements to NL100 so I ask this on behalf of them and probably many others.

FT NL50 seems snugglesoft in comparison(is that the FT doomswitch I hear) to NL100 where we all seem to have hit a bad run of variance (I get that impression).

Coinicdence or are there certain changes required for SSNL?

(FWIW I've only played 7k hands net +3buyins after a 6buyin swing and lost my confidence so went back to NL50 to recover it)

Any advice or should we just play more hands and get through it? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[ATrain]

At 25NL I often times run into a player that will call my raises oop and donk into me on EVERY single flop. Since I often only have over cards, or worse, how do you suggest I play against these guys.

[n1nj4.br]

another question:
How do u determine your betsizes? When heads up, u always pot when cbeting?

[netstorm]

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Thanks for the replies.

Just another question.[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Myself, kazana RedCashion, Matrix and probably others are making movements to NL100 so I ask this on behalf of them and probably many others.

FT NL50 seems snugglesoft in comparison(is that the FT doomswitch I hear) to NL100 where we all seem to have hit a bad run of variance (I get that impression).

Coinicdence or are there certain changes required for SSNL?

(FWIW I've only played 7k hands net +3buyins after a 6buyin swing and lost my confidence so went back to NL50 to recover it)

Any advice or should we just play more hands and get through it? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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add me to that list. I cant seem to beat $100nl no matter how hard I try. Its frustrating to run at 10ptbb/100 at $50nl but start with a 7 buyin downswing when taking a shot...

[orange]

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Thanks for the replies.

Just another question.[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Myself, kazana RedCashion, Matrix and probably others are making movements to NL100 so I ask this on behalf of them and probably many others.

FT NL50 seems snugglesoft in comparison(is that the FT doomswitch I hear) to NL100 where we all seem to have hit a bad run of variance (I get that impression).

Coinicdence or are there certain changes required for SSNL?

(FWIW I've only played 7k hands net +3buyins after a 6buyin swing and lost my confidence so went back to NL50 to recover it)

Any advice or should we just play more hands and get through it? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Not BW, but, IMO...

I think 100nl is the first jump of skill. There are still plenty of donks but not so much as 50nl. It has been a while since I transitioned over, but I think that there is an increase in aggression level. I think that the jump from 100-200 is decent too. 2/4 is probably the hardest I have yet encountered.

Some things that are pretty essential in moving up IMO are
-cut down # of tables and really try to get some reads. Also, datatmining helps alot too.
-Run good. Can't stress this enough, and I know we don't have as much control over that. But if you can run good at the start, you can generally play and learn the nuances of the game better while having a buffer before moving back down.

You'll also need to incorporate a few more 'moves' into your game like c/r-ing more, floating, etc. You'll need those moves when you play 200nl+.

[EMc]

munkey,

Too add, 100nl IMO is a much tougher game. Part of hte problem for me and I think others is that the money is finally real. I mean 100bucks is a lot of money, I dont care what anyone says. If its not, then my name on FT is NitHunter, I take transfers.

From my experience of moving up there then moving back down, I noticed that my cbets are called more, I am floated more and c/r more. You need to adjust your game for this. Also too, dont be afraid to move back down.