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Old 11-07-2006, 10:55 AM
bisonbison bisonbison is offline
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Default Re: Congratulations to the Democratic Party Supporters on this Forum

Now try talking about the House, which is what I was clearly talking about, because Ive already said the Dems arent taking the Senate.

Keep moving the goalposts. This is our conversation in this thread:

You say: To gloat you need to sweep almost all the close races

I say: Um, that doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't it be better to win 45 out of 60, rather than 35 out of 40?

You ignore that, and say: A senate majority and a resounding win in the house are the goalposts

I say: That's idiotic. All that matters in the house is a majority, and the senate is a real stretch cause there are fewer R seats to contest.

You say: nothing

I say: paging Copernicus

You say: It's like being spotted 21 points in a football game.

I say: Thanks for making that up. Certainly, running nationwide races against the party in power is just like being spotted 21 points in a football game. Here are the actual stats of senate gains in 6th year elections, so that you could see that a 4-seat gain is actually a good showing.

You say: But, um, I wasn't talking about the senate. Tell me about the house!

I say: Why should I bother? You're just backpedalling and ignoring anybody who proves you wrong.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:33 PM
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Oh, I stopped reading his posts after this:

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To justify a gloating thread the Dems would need to nearly sweep the closely contested House seats. Elections in the 6th year of an administration are so stacked against the sitting Presidents party, that anything less than that is a loss for the Dems.

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So I never saw where he went back and added "majority in the Senate".

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Personal attack deleted

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BOOOOOOOO.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:52 PM
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The senate will be hard since uneducated people in Wyoming, Idaho, etc vote against their own interests.

If you believe this is true, then the onus lies on democrats to be better educators and campaigners.

Also, paging Copernicus to this thread. Paging Copernicus to this thread. We need responses to some rebuttals.

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There have been no rebuttals to my statement, only dismissals of the relevance of the history of 6th year administrations, erroneous claims that winning the House and not the Senate is "huge", and guesses at the outcome of the election that appear to be based on week old polls.

When a supposedly equal or superior team is spotted 21 points in a game, winning by 10 is nothing to gloat about.

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wow. what happened to you as a kid?

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I was one of the last generations to get a decent public education. What happened to you?

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I got sent to Catholic school.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:16 PM
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Oh, I stopped reading his posts after this:

Sorry dude. My earlier post to you was too harsh.

My Foley excuse? I threw my back out this weekend and can't sleep. All this was posted at 4:00am pacific on a workday.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:23 PM
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Why do Republicans turn into Baghdad Bobs with their excuses when things don't go their way?
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:38 PM
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Why do Republicans turn into Baghdad Bobs with their excuses when things don't go their way?

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I'm sure they all don't. The smart ones try to figure out what went wrong and what they can do to fix things. Copernicus clearly is not one of these, however.
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Old 11-07-2006, 04:51 PM
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The senate will be hard since uneducated people in Wyoming, Idaho, etc vote against their own interests.

If you believe this is true, then the onus lies on democrats to be better educators and campaigners.

Also, paging Copernicus to this thread. Paging Copernicus to this thread. We need responses to some rebuttals.

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There have been no rebuttals to my statement, only dismissals of the relevance of the history of 6th year administrations, erroneous claims that winning the House and not the Senate is "huge", and guesses at the outcome of the election that appear to be based on week old polls.

When a supposedly equal or superior team is spotted 21 points in a game, winning by 10 is nothing to gloat about.

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You clearly have some deep issues. You are like a fan of a sports team who has fallen from grace. You cannot celebrate the accomplishments of your team, because your team sucks. So instead, you attack the team of your rival with moronic statements like "Well, you should have KILLED us because we totally suck, but you didn't, so you must suck too." This attitude is common, BUT IN THE WORLD OF SPORTS where the outcome really doesn't matter in the whole grand scheme of things and the where the majority of those doing the arguing are drunken idiots.

This is not sports. It is politics. The policies that get implemented can profoundly affect lives and the world in which we live. Do you even get that? Or do you merely like being associated with a "winner" and like to make sure that your rival feels like a "loser"? Seek help.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:00 PM
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Certainly it matters; it determines whether or not Congress will give him whatever he wants.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:03 PM
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how many lawyers do the Republicans have lined up tomorrow to steal the election?

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Not as many as the Dems do.

Republicans are happy to live with the verdict of the voters. Only when Democrat judges, like those on the Florida Supreme Court, decide to rewrite the existing laws of the state legislatures to arrange a result contrary to the choice of the voters, do we need to simply say: "your rewrite is invalid".

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This isn't even close to accurate. I assume you are referring to the Florida Supreme court decision in 2000, where they ordered Sec of State Harris to actually give the counties enough time to recount all the ballots. Why? Because Harris knew that Bush had won the initial vote and might not win the recount, but the recounts could not be completed within 7 days thus giving the election to Bush. Sounds like the Republicans were very happy to hear the results of the voters if it was in their favor, but I dont see how arguing against state ordered manual recounts supports the verdict of the voters.

Then the USSC stepped in and said that no recount could be made because county law vary in terms of recount standards, it would be a violation of equal protection for voters in 2 different counties to be judged by 2 different standards. This is the definition of activist judges: The USSC used the 14th amendment in a way it most certainly was not designed to apply and circumvented an elections process to declare a winner.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:04 AM
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While I'll refrain from gloating tomorrow, I am looking forward to the inevitable Whiskeytown conspiracy "vote stealing" thread that will be posted.

Do us proud with lots of outrage and vitriol.

I love the "mathematical certainty" that the numbers that unreliable pollsters produce must be better than the votes that real people cast on election day. Heck, why not cancel election day and just go with the polls?

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Thanks for not gloating about your parties win
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