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Old 07-18-2006, 04:28 PM
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I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman

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Atkins, fine.

ZIMMERMAN?!

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Plus Atkins plays half his games in Coors.

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Do yourself a favor and look up his home/away splits before you make any more comments as idiotic as this one. His OBP and slugging are both 30 points higher on the road. Don't be stupid.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:39 PM
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I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman

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Atkins, fine.

ZIMMERMAN?!

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Plus Atkins plays half his games in Coors.

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Yea, too bad Aram doesnt play in a hitter friendly ballpark.

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Coors is friendly 100% of the time. Not sure about this year, but last year the wind blew in more times than out if I remember correctly.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Rebuilding the Cubs

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I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman

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Atkins, fine.

ZIMMERMAN?!

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Plus Atkins plays half his games in Coors.

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Do yourself a favor and look up his home/away splits before you make any more comments as idiotic as this one. His OBP and slugging are both 30 points higher on the road. Don't be stupid.

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That doesn't change the fact that his numbers are helped at home. If he wasn't at coors, the discrepancy may be 60 or 70 pts. Illogical argument you used.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Rebuilding the Cubs

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I guess that's about as good of a counter argument I could expect from a Cubs fan. Better luck next time.
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:02 PM
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The interesting thing is more and more teams are going to be stuck in this situation. With all of the expansion, teams will only win about 1 title in 30 years. Combine that with the all-or-nothing mentality that seems to be getting stronger (where runner-up is a failure), and there are going to be lots of disappointed fan bases into the future.

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This is a good observation. Maybe they could replace the All-Star Game with a World Series, and have two a year as in the minors, or more teams could make a cult out of losing and satisfy their fans that way.
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Rebuilding the Cubs

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I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman

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Atkins, fine.

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Plus Atkins plays half his games in Coors.

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Coors isn't that hitter friendly. They've really jacked up the humidor.
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Old 07-18-2006, 06:57 PM
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hahahahahahahah

I guess that's about as good of a counter argument I could expect from a Cubs fan. Better luck next time.

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Please don't lump all of us Cub fans into the same group as the dbag YourMom.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:04 PM
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hahahahahahahah

I guess that's about as good of a counter argument I could expect from a Cubs fan. Better luck next time.

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Please don't lump all of us Cub fans into the same group as the dbag YourMom.

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Old 07-18-2006, 07:16 PM
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I'm not sure why Cedeno is listed by several people as a 'keeper,' he sucks out loud.

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He's a rookie with very good speed and has the potential to be a gold glover.

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I understand. His numbers aren't good, but guys don't get better by giving up on them after 3 months. He has a lot of talent. Also, right now he's in a very bad slump which probably makes his numbers look worse than they really are.

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I'm not sure The Cubs' system is the best place for a young player like Cedeno to learn plate discipline.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:40 PM
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I'm not sure why Cedeno is listed by several people as a 'keeper,' he sucks out loud.

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He's a rookie with very good speed and has the potential to be a gold glover.

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.255/.280/.338

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I understand. His numbers aren't good, but guys don't get better by giving up on them after 3 months. He has a lot of talent. Also, right now he's in a very bad slump which probably makes his numbers look worse than they really are.

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I'm not sure The Cubs' system is the best place for a young player like Cedeno to learn plate discipline.

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Agreed. That's probably his #1 issue right now. We def. need a new hitting instructor.
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