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Old 07-15-2006, 12:55 AM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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Reservoir Dogs - In theory, none of the movie should have taken place, as I believe the undercover cop wouldn't be allowed to let Mr Blonde shoot up the place. He would have had to blow cover at that point and try and save people.

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I just want to know why in the last scene Mr. Orange decides to tell Mr. White that he is a cop.

Actually, I know why--so that Mr. White can blow his head off, be killed by the police, and Tarantino can have his Shakespearian-tidy ending with everyone dead.

But if I were Mr. Orange, I sure as [censored] would have kept my mouth shut.
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Old 07-15-2006, 01:42 AM
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Reservoir Dogs - In theory, none of the movie should have taken place, as I believe the undercover cop wouldn't be allowed to let Mr Blonde shoot up the place. He would have had to blow cover at that point and try and save people.

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I just want to know why in the last scene Mr. Orange decides to tell Mr. White that he is a cop.

Actually, I know why--so that Mr. White can blow his head off, be killed by the police, and Tarantino can have his Shakespearian-tidy ending with everyone dead.

But if I were Mr. Orange, I sure as [censored] would have kept my mouth shut.

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He wanted to come clean, after Mr. White saved his life and fought so hard for him against Mr. Pink, Eddie and Joe. Orange was dying anyway after being shot again, so why not bear his soul and tell the truth?
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:11 AM
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Reservoir Dogs - In theory, none of the movie should have taken place, as I believe the undercover cop wouldn't be allowed to let Mr Blonde shoot up the place. He would have had to blow cover at that point and try and save people.

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I just want to know why in the last scene Mr. Orange decides to tell Mr. White that he is a cop.

Actually, I know why--so that Mr. White can blow his head off, be killed by the police, and Tarantino can have his Shakespearian-tidy ending with everyone dead.

But if I were Mr. Orange, I sure as [censored] would have kept my mouth shut.

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He wanted to come clean, after Mr. White saved his life and fought so hard for him against Mr. Pink, Eddie and Joe. Orange was dying anyway after being shot again, so why not bear his soul and tell the truth?

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To maximize the chance of not dying. Which for me would be a pretty big thing, even if I had been shot twice.
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Old 07-15-2006, 12:36 PM
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In the Rock when Sean Connery is leading everybody into the island, he rolls through the spurts of fire because he "memorized the timing." Then once he gets in, he opens a door to let the rest of the team in.

Why would he have learned the fire timing when he could have just opened the door and walked out in the first place?

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For that matter, why couldn't a unit of bad ass commandos just breech the door with some C4?

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They were trying to get in quietly so blowing up the door to get in would have made that effort futile.

Everyone else,

I worked in a holding center facility which in no way is similar to a maximum security prison like Alcatraz, but I can guarantee one thing. There is no way he would have been able to just walk out of a door and out of the building EVER. There were guards/camera/ etc etc around every single exit/entrance.

Just on a hunch if you watch the movie there was probably no door knob or latch on the outside of that door so they couldnt simply walk up and open the door.
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Old 07-15-2006, 02:46 PM
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This is a great topic, btw.

Any alien invasion flick in which the light-years-beyond-humans-in-intelligence-and-technology invaders are defeated due to some basic element on earth that is fatally poisonous/acidic to the aliens. It's not exactly difficult to see that the place you're about to invade is 3/4 covered with water. It's kind of like if the US decided to infiltrate a forest for an attack on some tribe, but didn't find out until they were in the middle of the forrest that it wasn't a forest, but a bunch of really big vampire-dinosaurs.

Although I like the movie, the entirety of the Sixth Sense, where Bruce Willis goes through life and doesn't realize he's only acknowledged by one person (hell, he was in the kid's house sitting across from the mother; did he not realize he floated through the front door and sat down across from her?) until the kids tells him he's dead, kind of gets on my nerves.

Although not an incongruity in the classical sense, the scene in Independence Day where Randy Quaid has two 'going away/f-off, aliens' lines is ridiculous. I think it's first "In the words of my generation, UP YOURS!" and you think he's gone and sacrificed himself, then they cut to another scene, then cut back to Randy again, saying "Hello boys, I'm BAAAAACK." It's kind of incongruous, but definitely dumb/annoy/extraneous.

Any movie where a force to be reckoned with is subdued and/or killed with contrived ease. I could name a bunch but I'll just mention Return of the Jedi: the powerful Sith lord is defeated by an injured, newly one-handed James Earl Jones picking him up and throwing him down a hole. They're supposed to see that crap coming!

In Batman Begins, I don't see the point of Batman giving control of the success/failure of the crucial mission of taking down the train rail to some guy that knows nothing about the Batmobile, then going onto the train to basically do nothing. Gambling with the old man accomplishing that task instead of using his own expertise is definitely -EV, and going onto the doomed train to, I guess, say goodbye, can never be +EV.
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Old 07-15-2006, 03:23 PM
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re: batman begins I thought the whole batmobile thing was incredibly stupid. Yeah this one 60 year old black guy in a basement singlehandedly designed and assembled this tank? Because if he didn't wouldnt the 50+ people who did recognize it on TV and say "hey I made that for wayne industries, how did this mysterious superhero get it?"
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:34 PM
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re: batman begins I thought the whole batmobile thing was incredibly stupid. Yeah this one 60 year old black guy in a basement singlehandedly designed and assembled this tank? Because if he didn't wouldnt the 50+ people who did recognize it on TV and say "hey I made that for wayne industries, how did this mysterious superhero get it?"

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If you're getting into that kind of stuff I might as well add the absurdity that is the Superman/Clark Kent transition that people manage to not connect.
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Old 07-16-2006, 09:59 PM
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Although I like the movie, the entirety of the Sixth Sense, where Bruce Willis goes through life and doesn't realize he's only acknowledged by one person (hell, he was in the kid's house sitting across from the mother; did he not realize he floated through the front door and sat down across from her?) until the kids tells him he's dead, kind of gets on my nerves.

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Things like that are why I suck at movies...I just can't stop being bothered by the idea.

Take "Fight Club". Great movie to own if for no other reason than the audio and special effects. But I couldn't wrap my head around the "surprise" 2/3 of the way through the film. It was the very definition of incongruity to me, and in subsequent viewings knowing this early on just irritated me and resulted in me looking for things to make it implausible.

Yeah, I'm a nit in that way, and I tend to overanalyze with women too. Wish I could take a pill and make it go away...
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Old 07-16-2006, 10:39 PM
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In Matrix part duex, not sure if it is Reloaded or whatever:

The fight on top of the moving big rig between Morpheus and the Agent dude....it's a great scene but something always bugged me. It had to do with the sword, i don't recall the exact series of events, but at some point Morpheus is standing on the sword, as it is stuck in the side of the big rig. He uses it to jump back on top or some such fancy. The important thing to note is that the sword is stuck in the side, but much more towards the ground than the roof...it is probably 2 feet up from the floor of the big rig cargo area.

Later on in the fight scene, Morpheus gets tossed and slides across the big rig top. He hangs over the edge and lo and behold, the sword is right there a mere foot down from the top of the rig. So he grabs it and proceeds to get nasty on said Agent.

Always bugged me. I worked at a movie theatre at the time, and watched the entire chase scene about 7 times a day during my once a week double shifts. Sweet.
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:37 AM
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In The Game, all sorts of elaborate acts go perfectly for Michael Douglass to make it through alive. I love the movie, but what if he was in such a panic while he was locked in a sinking car that he couldnt get the window attachment back on? I probably would have drowned in that situation. Or the ending, where he jumps off a tall building in exactly the right spot and falls through a breakaway glass window landing perfectly on a huge inflatable mat? That party would have been a bit of a downer if he had jumped off the other side.
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