Alan Goerhing

[bones]

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YOU HAVE PLAYED AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VERY HIGH VARIANCE LIVE MTTS. RESULTS ARE NOT A BIG FACTOR. Again, you are showing your complete lack of understanding.

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25k HU freezeout?

[Alan Goehring]

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YOU HAVE PLAYED AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VERY HIGH VARIANCE LIVE MTTS. RESULTS ARE NOT A BIG FACTOR. Again, you are showing your complete lack of understanding.

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I am confused. Given that I have not drawn any conclusions about anything, what do I have a "complete lack of understanding" about?

With regard to comparing my style to Carlos Mortensen, who is a friend of mine and whose style most closely resembles my own (in my opinion), I apologize if I have insulted you buddy. Ditto Danny N.

Given that I have never proclaimed myself a great/good/bad player, lets just agree that I have had some success in the past and that I may or may not be successful in the future.

Due to the propensity of people on this forum to put words into my mouth, don't expect too many posts from me in the future. Is this how you got rid of Paul Philips?

BTW, I have a pretty good grasp of statistics, so I understanding all about insufficient data points and biased samples. I am surprised no one pointed out the non-static nature of poker players relative abilites over extended time periods.

[John Shiznit]

There are a few guys who love to take shot at any known players who post on here. Likely, why very few do. The internet world would probably be better if we all had to post under our real names. Good to hear though from a thinking player who is not out to trying to promote himself or his book.

[Smoothcall]

I don't need to reread anything. I think you need to if your gonna say your statements about hellmuth weren't inferring that his play wants to make you puke and he is inferior to you. Why does it make you want to puke if you like phil hellmuths style? You should be honoroed if you thought he was a better player than u. Do you feel u are beter than him? Most would agree your statements are infering you think you are the superioir player to him. You even admit it as far as whose better with deep stacks. That is a big statement in itself when phil h. has 10 bracelets and is still considered an excellent big stack player. Just by the that statement saying you are better deep stack player is calling out Phil H. And if your gonna do that then people have a right to call you out on those statements.

Yes i was aware that you made statements sying you werent saying you were great. But after saying that you said you are a beter dep stack player than hellmuth and compare yourself to playing stle of danil n. and carlos m. who most consider to be great players. Those statements say that you think you are a great player no matter that you said you werent saying you are great. Do you see that?

Again from tv you sem like a nive guy and have nothing against you but when you insult a top tourney player like Hellmuth and call him out and infer you play better we have a right to call you out on it as well.

What makes you think your assessments are better than mine? You know nothing about me or what i know but you make this claim. What if i play better than u and can assess good play better than u. Is this possible? Just becasue you might play with them more doesnt mean you know who plays good and who doesn't. Because if you play bad how would you know good play? Not saying to insult but if i was correct that you dont play good how can you determine who is good at poker and whose bad. Your opinion may be skewed by what you think is good play when good players may feel what you do is bad play if you know what i mean. And again im not meaing to just rip you but you have made the claims you made and i'm just not agreeing. If you just said im hav9ing fun and doing my best i wouldnt say anything. But when you make claims that you are etter than top tourney players you should expect to be called out and prove it or explain. And as other have said short term results don't mean much. 2 tournies don't make you a great player. they make you rich(and congratulations!) but doesnt make you great. Good luck in the future. I don't mean any ill will. Just calling you out on your CONFIDENCE on how you comapre to Phil H and pro tourney players.

[wisehandpoker]

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What makes you think your assessments are better than mine? You know nothing about me or what i know but you make this claim.

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Seems like a safe bet to me.

[John Shiznit]

Hellmuth has criticized every player out there, including goerhing so he really has no right to be upset if someone criticizes his style. also phil is not really much of an angry guy. Daniel, has written alot of negative things about Phil's play and they still seem to be pals.

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[Alan Goehring]

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phil h. has 10 bracelets

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I believe its 9. Other than that, stop wasting my time.

Thank You.

[Smoothcall]

One last thing. I reread your statements and you are downplaiyng now what you said to make it seem like you werent insulting his play and saying you were better. This is what you said. You said when people compare my style to hellmuth's it makes me want to puke. That your game is more complex than hellmuths and you are a better deep stack player. Please explain where this isn't calling out hellmuth, and that you aren't saying his game is inferior to yours? Am i right? His game isnt as complex as yours? That isn't inferring your the deeper thinking better player?

[Smoothcall]

So you refuse to answer my quesitons? Hmm sounds like a backout? You could at least admit you were saying you wee a better player than Phil Hellmuth and that comparing his play to yours makes you want to puke beasue he is inferior. No reason to get mad and be abrupt. I'm just discussing your statements. You made them not me.

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