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#671
09-09-2006, 07:10 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
BJ and baccarat count 100% toward the 1x. If you've already played $1,036 (or so) then that's it ... everything has been transferred to your balance. Unless somehow they just never credited to you, which I think happened to someone else and they had to redo the 1x.
So I've got $35 WR left to go. Was going to put $100 on Seattle tomorrow, and now I'm thinking of just making it $50 to finish off my WR. Would still love to give Mansion a little play, but I'm nervous about getting my $2,675 into my account so I can breath easy. And mad props to EC. It didn't turn out perfectly for everyone, but it seems the majority made a little more moolah. Personally, I'm pumped about an extra $565 on top of my free grand. 
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#672
09-09-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
Yup, one more time: thanks to EC. I had taken a brief look at clearing the bonus in other ways, and had concluded that it wasn't worth it. Playing the side bet in Keno for 100x the original bet is something that I very much doubt I would have thought of.
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#673
09-09-2006, 07:22 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
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Actually, Pontoon variance is overrated. I know a lot of people bitch about the runs involved, but the SD is only 1.44. BJ is 1.2 and 3CP is 1.64. A high variance game is JoB with a SD of 4.42. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Here is a link showing the house edges and standard deviations for most common casino games. Someone already posted the standard deviation for this bonus early on in the thread. For those who don't already know about SD, read about it .
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#674
09-09-2006, 07:26 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
How long did it take most people to get their account verified? I sent the necessary documents in 48+ hours ago and all I've gotten back from them is an email saying they received my email and will get back to me within 24 hours.
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#675
09-09-2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
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[ QUOTE ] Actually, Pontoon variance is overrated. I know a lot of people bitch about the runs involved, but the SD is only 1.44. BJ is 1.2 and 3CP is 1.64. A high variance game is JoB with a SD of 4.42. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Here is a link showing the house edges and standard deviations for most common casino games. Someone already posted the standard deviation for this bonus early on in the thread. For those who don't already know about SD, read about it . [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that was me who posted it. Unfortunately, Wizardofodds doesn't give the SD for Pontoon, but i found it elsewhere.
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#677
09-09-2006, 07:39 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
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Ok, something is fked up then. I am sure I've wagered more than 5k. So at some point, it should have been released. Damn support sucks! LOL! [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you should, I don't know... stop wagering until support gets back to you and credits you the bonus? At which point you can then wager the 1x on whatever to get it released to your account balance?
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#679
09-09-2006, 07:49 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
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I have stopped. Just been trying to get Live Chat to work and refreshing email. [/ QUOTE ] Good luck. I have no idea how anybody is talking to CS. They have no US number, live chat doesn't work, and they don't respond to e-mails.
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#680
09-09-2006, 08:08 PM
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Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b
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[ QUOTE ] Someone already posted the standard deviation for this bonus early on in the thread. For those who don't already know about SD, read about it . [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, that was me who posted it. [/ QUOTE ] Right on. As far as I can tell without actually doing it, your calculation was not exactly dead on, but probably wasn't terribly far off. The numbers are different than coin flips because of the 1.95 to 1 payout on ~99% (the Even/Odd portion) of the bet, and the X payout on ~1% (the actual Keno portion) of the bet (which varies based on the number of picks, being optimal). If you corrected it later in the thread, I missed it - I'm going by your initial SD calculation early on. Assuming our total WR was 22,000, the breakdown looks like: 220 or 1% wagered on Keno (house edge varies) 21,780 or 99% wagered on side bet (2.5% house edge) Let's give the Keno house edge 30%, assuming we are the worst. It won't matter much because the amount we bet on Keno is so small. The side bet house edge is 2.5% because you will result in either 0 or 1.95 per dollar wagered, for an average of .975, or 2.5% less than your initial dollar. On to the expected results: 220 from Keno - lose 30% of it, or 66. 21,780 from side - lose 2.5% of it, or 544.50 Net expected loss: 610.50 Gross bonus: ~1050 Net expected bonus after wagering: 439.50 (EV) Assuming you only did the Steelers bet, you should have started with an account balance of 2100 (1100 deposit + 1000 won). The expected cashout amount should thus be 2539.50. Actually, it's less than that, because of that last 1x wagering that Mansion makes you do. Assuming you do it with .5% HA blackjack (if they have that), then you'd be looking at ~$5 less, or ~$2534. Someone else can do the SD calcs, I'm tired of typing. Oh, and I realize you probably knew these numbers, this is mostly for the peanut gallery. Unless you want to compute up the actual SD for us. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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