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10-05-2007, 02:41 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
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[ QUOTE ] I thought October was starting to look up, but I was wrong.  [/ QUOTE ] I am at work eating chex mix on my lunch and I almost choked to death....very nice [/ QUOTE ] agreed, mad love for the cave dwelling downswinger |
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#643
10-05-2007, 02:42 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
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I lurk a lot in MSNL and HSNL for the same reason, but if you;re not getting as much as you would like out of uNL, try replying to some more threads and correcting some noobs. Thats what makes this forum tick over, participation by the more experienced posters. [/ QUOTE ] Sure. But when I'm on a VERY limited time supply just as of now, I feel like I need to max out utility for myself. |
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#644
10-05-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
cliff notes: stats can only be an indication where to start looking. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
[ QUOTE ] The WSF # should be perhaps slightly lower, maybe, but I've also seen contradicting evidence where my WSF was just as high during a bad run. But 39 is off the grid. I'm not interesting in arguing semantics, but I am interested in arguing philosophies. And yes, I actually believe there is something you can learn from your results. Maybe not something like "you complete from SB too often," but then again people who spout off that kind of advice are also missing the mark. Maybe you complete too much from the SB, but we don't know how. For that, we need hands. So people who think you can learn specific tactical adjustments that need to be made by looking at stats are wrong. You can only get clues as to general categories of things to look at. And people who say you can learn nothing from your winrate are similarly wrong. SB completion rate is a stat, as is VPIP, WTSD, street-by-street aggression and all the rest, but they think you can learn something from those stats. They have a convergence rate just like winrate, they have degrees of errors, variance, etc, so what's the difference? There isn't one. So what can you learn from winrate? Its actually the most important, and most difficult thing you could learn from any stats. If you have lost money over a significant number of hands (yes, 20k is significant), then there's a very good chance you're bad at poker. It just makes sense, and ignoring this only keeps your bad habits in the dark. What's needed is the bright light of reality. I'm not trying to be a jerk or be insulting. I'm actually trying to help. You can get better at poker. But its a growth thing, just like excercise. You can't do it without some blood, sweat & tears. [/ QUOTE ] |
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#645
10-05-2007, 02:46 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
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[ QUOTE ] Out of curiosity, what's a "decent" W$WSF? [/ QUOTE ] The ammount of players who have [censored] up their game making "PT stats look pretty" is unreal. [/ QUOTE ] I agree you should not play for stats. But stats are not meaningless. Think of stats like a guage, rather than a goal. The goal is to play perfect poker. The stats are the guages on your dashboard that give you indications of how things are going. Stats arent poker, but they can tell you things about poker. When you play well, your stats will improve. You will not improve your play by adjusting your stats. Also, I would argue that more people's games are [censored] up by the forum telling them "dude its just variance" than by people playing for stats. |
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#647
10-05-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Out of curiosity, what's a "decent" W$WSF? [/ QUOTE ] like 38? [/ QUOTE ] Mid to high 40s. [/ QUOTE ] What about different stakes? At micros there are way too many calling stations, more people to the flop and therefore I'd think W$WSF would be lower. |
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#648
10-05-2007, 02:52 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
Genz, Grunch, and Gelford (try saying that 10 times fast), I appreciate the advice. Grunch, I'm starting to realize that maybe I am not as good at poker as I thought (pretty common mistake). My only issue is with the 150k+ hands where I was a winner (I know - still not as large a sample as many other people have). Add to that the fact that I've studied the game more recently, cut down on the # of tables, posted more hands and responded to more hands here, etc., and I'm starting to get lost in what exactly I'm doing wrong.
One quick question for you, Grunch: When you said, "The WSF # should be perhaps slightly lower, maybe, but I've also seen contradicting evidence where my WSF was just as high during a bad run. But 39 is off the grid," I'm really confused about what you mean. If the WSF should be slightly LOWER, how is 39 off the grid? And I thought you first said that 39 was too low? Not trying to get caught up in a looking too much into a statistic, but I just want to understand what you're saying. I'll probably cut this discussion off here because I didn't intend on turning the the 'brew into my poker downswing bitching blog (as much as it is starting to look that way). Thanks for the all advice though. |
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#650
10-05-2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: **Official** uNL Microbrew Thread - October
I moved from 5nl to 10nl and the amount of short stackers is ridicalous. I hate them, I would throw them all under a bus if I could. They shove preflop after i make a standard raise, they open shove flops. I have to move back down to 5nl becuase I lost like 10 buy ins, luckily I was a little overrolled. Any suggestions? Play super tight like gelford or what?
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