when to call a habitual pusher

[samoleus]

masquerade, this is flawed logic. because it is a cash game (and because he is not guaranteed to keep doing this once he (a) doubles up or (b) loses his stack - qutie easily to someone else if I wait for such a hand - I should be taking any +EV situation.

[Lyric]

In my experience people start playing a lot better when they get a double stack. They may start off playing quite badly, but then reality hits. They tighten up condiderably or leave the table.

You don't want him to stop pushing or leave. Unless you think he'll continue to play this way with a double stack, you should pick a better hand to call his all-in.

IMO call with 88+ and AT+, which gives you a good +EV expectation and small risk of someone else catching him first.

[Marko Schmarko]

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2) If you call and win he will likely go on monkey tilt

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How, exactly, can he play worse?

[creedofhubris]

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2) If you call and win he will likely go on monkey tilt

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How, exactly, can he play worse?

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This is the 8th time he's pushed over a raise, so he's up ~30BBs with no showdown. That's not bad poker.

To the OP: in my experience a lot of dudes will hit and run after they double up after a questionable allin. If this guy is like them then you'll want to pick your spot.

[Matt Flynn]

I'm with the slightly tighter players since opponent may tighten up once doubled up. AT/66-ish for me but if he's doing that for nearly half of his hands over 30 hands that becomes Ax/22. KQ only if opponent is pushing nearly all his hands or has been going for several orbits - even then I'd often fold. I do not weant to get faked by a run of good cards then run KQ into an ace. Also, I want to be to his right. You want relative position on a preflop pusher / superraiser so you can see whether someone else calls before you commit with A9. It would truly suck to call with A9 then get QQ calling behind you.

[samoleus]

An excellent point Matt: I agree with both the KQ point and the point about wanting to know that the others are out of the way. In this case, I was on him immediate right.

[PumaSwede]

AJ+ or 88+ if he will leave after taking your money
If he will stay and especielly if he will go on tilt Im calling with anything but the worst

[Jman28]

As a player with a lot of tournament background, I'd feel very comfortable playing in a game like this.

I know you haven't called a push yet, but you need to do your best to put him on a range. Hand values fluctuate a lot based on what he is pushing. Against any ace, any pair, JTs is way better than A6o, although both are folds. Against any two cards, JTs and A6o are both similar and both calls.

Anyways, just consult a chart like this, or if you want to play with the range yourself, download a program like this, which you probably already have, or buy SNGPT, which is made for tournaments, but would be able to solve this problem very easily (if you can put the pusher on a range).

[samoleus]

Jman, I agree that if I had him accurately on a range, it is relatively simple to determine if I should call or not. The point - and the post - is in fact more about determining his hand range than anything else. Based on his chat and what he had done in the first two orbits, I felt his range was any ace, any pair, any two broadway cards, a decent king, and maybe even a suited connector. If I am correct in that assessment, A-6 is a call I believe. But of course, the main task is determining his hand range after such a small sample.

[BLdSWtTRs]

a6 imo is an easy fold against Donut even with him cranking it up a few notches. Under the conditions you described aj, 88 or better or something close to that...