Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.

[Rduke55]

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Well, considering I'm funded by the NIH and NSF I friggin' love taxes and bureaucracy.

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I can certainly understand this point of view.

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So there should be no basic science then? Or interstates? etc.

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Did I say that?

You are suffering from the all to common belief that if something currently done by the government were not done by the government, it would go undone. I used to suffer from the same misconception, until I actually started doing some research. Suffice it to say that I have never encountered a service provided by government that both a) could be provided for better (i.e. at higher quality and lower cost with more choice) by government than the free market and b) should be provided. The only things that I've ever found that government can provide for better than the free market are massacres, genocides, concentration camps, mass graves, and similar public goods.

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Of course I have to think of science and I think that it would suffer greatly if all science were privately run.
And what about the interstates? (Sorry, I keep thinking of that quote) What pays for that?
Who does the upkeep on any roads? Why do they do it? Where does the profit come from?

[Borodog]

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Of course I have to think of science and I believe that it would suffer greatly if all science were privately run.

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FYP.

Why? Because you have a feeling? Have you investigated it? Do you really believe that fundamental science has to be funded involuntarily or it won't get done? Personally, I think that is silly. Fundamental science is extremely valuable. I take it you will not disagree? Capital gravitates in a free market to that which is valuable. By what magical mechanism would science not be invested in?

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And what about the interstates? (Sorry, I keep thinking of that quote) What pays for that?

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How about . . . the people who use them? Unlike now? Where the tax burden for almost all government "services" is either only tenuously connected or completely divorced from those who actually make use of the service?

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Who does the upkeep on any roads?

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How about . . . the companies that own them?

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Why do they do it?

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To make money?

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Where does the profit come from?

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1. People want to drive on interstate highways (there is a demand).
2. They will pay you if you supply that demand.
3. Profit.

I could go into extensive detail describing a system of privately owned interstate highways, and why they would be far cheaper and better than our current system.

But I warn you, I have had these sorts of discussions on the internet many, many times. They always turn into the same thing: "Ok, but what about X? How does the private sector provide for X? I can't think of how the private sector could provide for X, therefore it can't, and therefore we need government to do it for us." I then patiently explain how the private sector could provide X. "Ok, but what about Y? How does the private sector provide for Y? I can't think of how the private sector could provide for Y . . ."

So, do you want to hear about private interstates or not?

[Arnfinn Madsen]

I don't want to hear about private interstates, but I know who is the big innocent loser in an anarchocapitalist society. The children of bad parents who have no government in place to secure them food, school, healthcare etc.

[BCPVP]

"Charity" seems to be the catch-all solution to any problem with AC.

[Borodog]

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I don't want to hear about private interstates, but I know who is the big innocent loser in an anarchocapitalist society. The children of bad parents who have no government in place to secure them food, school, healthcare etc.

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Why should I bother? You've ignored all my other points. Besides, I doubt that your mind could be changed.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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I don't want to hear about private interstates, but I know who is the big innocent loser in an anarchocapitalist society. The children of bad parents who have no government in place to secure them food, school, healthcare etc.

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Why should I bother? You've ignored all my other points. Besides, I doubt that your mind could be changed.

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Ignoring your points? I read your posts and see that is some sort of angry ranting mixed with some shallow reasoning. They are not convincing, you could not sell a Ferrari for $10 by that way of talking. You seem to be very defensive and that is often a sign of not having thought through things, so I ask you a question about one major issue.

FYI, I am rather liberal and don't like laws reducing personal freedom. I like taxes though.

[Borodog]

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"Charity" seems to be the catch-all solution to any problem with AC.

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You say that as though it were a bad thing?

How is this different from our current system? Do you think any of the innumerable welfare and entitlement programs are anything but charity? Oh, that's right. It's not charity, it's force.

[BCPVP]

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You say that as though it were a bad thing?

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Charity is a wonderful thing. I just don't think that all of the exceptions in AC Utopia can be provided for through charity.

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How is this different from our current system?

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This sweeps up anything the "charity" argument missed.

[Borodog]

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Ignoring your points? I read your posts and see that is some sort of angry ranting

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Please post a copy of my "angry ranting."

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mixed with some shallow reasoning.

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Which you have failed to address. Hence, ignoring my points.

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They are not convincing, you could not sell a Ferrari for $10 by that way of talking.

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And yet, you still fail to rebutt them before moving on to a new topic that you can ignore.

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You seem to be very defensive and that is often a sign of not having thought through things,

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You made this assinine comment before. So let me get this straight. For defending myself from the rude, uninvited, snide attacks of a complete stranger who has apparently never read a single reference about the subject he is deriding, who then refuses to address my points, I am "defensive" and therefore "haven't thought things through." Apparently, the only people who have "thought things through" are those whom you agree with. You are a complete joke.

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so I ask you a question about one major issue.

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And if I answered your question, you would ignore it, and move on to some other topic.

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FYI, I am rather liberal and don't like laws reducing personal freedom. I like taxes though.

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The latter is in conflict with the former.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Okay, if the average anarchocapitals behaves/ reacts like this, I don't have to worry. I get to keep my government.