Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2) - Page 6

gemmer · #51 09-16-2007, 05:33 PM

With the most suspicious hand being:

STAGE #746856569: HOLDEM NORMAL $200/$400 - 2007-08-28 11:47:04 (ET)
Table: LOC NESS AVE (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 7 - GEMMER ($7200 in chips)
Seat 3 - GOFETCH ($11990 in chips)
Seat 4 - GRAYCAT ($24027.89 in chips)
Seat 5 - MNTBIKR18 ($7880 in chips)
GOFETCH - Posts small blind $100
GRAYCAT - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to GEMMER [5d 5c]
MNTBIKR18 - Raises $400 to $400
GEMMER - Raises $600 to $600
GOFETCH - Folds
GRAYCAT - Raises $600 to $800
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
GEMMER - Calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2c 2s 5s]
GRAYCAT - Checks
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $200
GRAYCAT - Folds
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $200
*** TURN *** [2c 2s 5s] [10h]
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $400
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
*** RIVER *** [2c 2s 5s 10h] [Ah]
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $400
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GEMMER - Shows [5d 5c] (Full house, fives full of twos)
MNTBIKR18 - Mucks
GEMMER Collects $4495 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($4500) | Rake ($5)
Board [2c 2s 5s 10h Ah]
Seat 3: GOFETCH (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: GRAYCAT (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 5: MNTBIKR18 HI: [Mucked] [Jh 10c]
Seat 7: GEMMER (dealer) won Total ($4495) HI

$4495) with Full house, fives full of twos [5d 5c - B:5s,P:5d,P:5c,B:2s,B:2c]

He coldcaps preflop and then proceeds to check/fold the flop on this board.

shoxbb6 · #52 09-16-2007, 05:33 PM

Why is the LHE thread still in the mod forum while this one is out in the open?

Klompy · #53 09-16-2007, 05:34 PM

Is there a way that people can post how many handed the screen shots are?

robvleugel · #54 09-16-2007, 05:34 PM

Way to make him pay:

Get into a game with him and 3-4 of your friends (use teamspeak). Fold until one of you guys has a good hand (any ace will do the job). Make a bet, cheater will call, than one of your friends miniraises, than original better miniraises again, cheater will either call and than you repeat the step until you go all-in (no way he can outplay you on the flop, and since you most likely hold the best hand since he plays any cards...) and if he folds you took some of him money (the friend will fold, after the session you'll simply both share the profit)

hoyasaxa · #55 09-16-2007, 05:36 PM

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With the most suspicious hand being:

STAGE #746856569: HOLDEM NORMAL $200/$400 - 2007-08-28 11:47:04 (ET)
Table: LOC NESS AVE (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 7 - GEMMER ($7200 in chips)
Seat 3 - GOFETCH ($11990 in chips)
Seat 4 - GRAYCAT ($24027.89 in chips)
Seat 5 - MNTBIKR18 ($7880 in chips)
GOFETCH - Posts small blind $100
GRAYCAT - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to GEMMER [5d 5c]
MNTBIKR18 - Raises $400 to $400
GEMMER - Raises $600 to $600
GOFETCH - Folds
GRAYCAT - Raises $600 to $800
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
GEMMER - Calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2c 2s 5s]
GRAYCAT - Checks
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $200
GRAYCAT - Folds
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $200
*** TURN *** [2c 2s 5s] [10h]
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $400
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
*** RIVER *** [2c 2s 5s 10h] [Ah]
MNTBIKR18 - Checks
GEMMER - Bets $400
MNTBIKR18 - Calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GEMMER - Shows [5d 5c] (Full house, fives full of twos)
MNTBIKR18 - Mucks
GEMMER Collects $4495 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($4500) | Rake ($5)
Board [2c 2s 5s 10h Ah]
Seat 3: GOFETCH (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: GRAYCAT (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 5: MNTBIKR18 HI: [Mucked] [Jh 10c]
Seat 7: GEMMER (dealer) won Total ($4495) HI

$4495) with Full house, fives full of twos [5d 5c - B:5s,P:5d,P:5c,B:2s,B:2c]

He coldcaps preflop and then proceeds to check/fold the flop on this board.

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Is this unusual in a capped multiway pot? Im not a poo flinger, but it seems more than reasonable to expect someone to have an overpair and c/f AK

fusting1234 · #56 09-16-2007, 05:38 PM

Is it at all possible that no only can the accounts see the whole cards, but they are also run by a bot of some sort that just incorporated that information.

I only say this because honestly who is dumb enough to make a winning 10 high call in a 1K BI tournament that alot of people are obviously watching. Some of the hands these guys have played are so absolutly obvious I cannot understand how someone would be stupid enough to make those plays.

Why is it the morons always figure these things out. If i could [censored] see whole cards id be so [censored] rich and no one would ever know i was cheating

mason55 · #57 09-16-2007, 05:38 PM

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No. MD5 can be fooled. Files can have same size, same MD5 and still be different (backdoored).

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there's still ways to use MD5 to insure integrity, and obviously there are other hashes that can be used as well to verify file integrity.

anyway i still think that putting a trojaned update on a webserver would be next to impossible. if absolute rewrites the entire exe/dll during an update then the backdoor is gone. if absolute just patches the exe/dll then a patch is going to break at some point when things aren't how they should be.

gemmer · #58 09-16-2007, 05:39 PM

I don't think I've ever seen anyone coldcapping preflop (taking the initiative) and then check and fold a flop like this for 1 bet.

Stealthy · #59 09-16-2007, 05:40 PM

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Way to make him pay:

Get into a game with him and 3-4 of your friends (use teamspeak). Fold until one of you guys has a good hand (any ace will do the job). Make a bet, cheater will call, than one of your friends miniraises, than original better miniraises again, cheater will either call and than you repeat the step until you go all-in (no way he can outplay you on the flop, and since you most likely hold the best hand since he plays any cards...) and if he folds you took some of him money (the friend will fold, after the session you'll simply both share the profit)

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1 guy with a view of the tables hole cards would demolish the other 5 even if they worked together

trambopoline · #60 09-16-2007, 05:41 PM

Uggghh, I JUST rememebered that I did play a session with double drag. In fact I remember stacking off to him on a J23 6 5 board where he overshoved almost 2x the pot on river. It was a 3 bet pot preflop and I instacalled 55 and obv he showed up with A4. I didnt think much of it besides to reload cause he was prob some huge fish. He ended up leaving the table with >25k (10-20 nl) in less than 200 hands. God it was so sick how good he was running, so i thought. Even the rail was proclaiming how lucky he was getting and how he was just runnning over the table. Im requesting my hand histories from AP right now.