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#51
08-28-2007, 02:49 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] You tell me. [/ QUOTE ] I will: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/ BMM International and Cigital, Inc. http://www.bmm.com.au/ http://www.cigital.com/ I can't find anywhere where they say anything remotely close to: [ QUOTE ] the chip leader 9/10 times would suckout so bad for runner runner it was literally hilarious. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] No sir, I want to see the results, not PR speak. I seen my example thousands of times. Unfortunately most of this was when PT didn't pick up tourney stats. 
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#53
08-28-2007, 02:50 AM
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You tell me. [/ QUOTE ] Hang on. We have a discussion about online poker is being rigged. You claim that "9/10" times the chip leader sucks out "runner runner" in SNGs. If this discussion is going to have any meaning, you now need to provide some reasoning/source/evidence/something to support that sentence. Time constraints permitting, I'm happy to provide a source/reasoning/evidence for any statement that I make. Can you do the same?
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#54
08-28-2007, 02:51 AM
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[ QUOTE ] hey the NBA is/was rigged... why not stars? [/ QUOTE ] 'cause there's no proof that stars is rigged? since i'm not a follower of the nba, i don't know this, but i assume that there was some evidence at sometime to support your claim that it was rigged. [/ QUOTE ] Josem makes a good sheep.
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#55
08-28-2007, 02:53 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] You tell me. [/ QUOTE ] Hang on. We have a discussion about online poker is being rigged. You claim that "9/10" times the chip leader sucks out "runner runner" in SNGs. If this discussion is going to have any meaning, you now need to provide some reasoning/source/evidence/something to support that sentence. Time constraints permitting, I'm happy to provide a source/reasoning/evidence for any statement that I make. Can you do the same? [/ QUOTE ] Well, I will hold my personal experiences then since I cannot go back in time and copy my tourney hh's.
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#56
08-28-2007, 02:56 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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I'll have you test it for me before I feed it to my dogs. [/ QUOTE ] No. Go get someone with some expertise in dog food analysis to test it. Just as we're saying that you should get someone with expertise in statistical analysis to test your claims that online poker is rigged. [ QUOTE ] You do know the US recieved tainted dog food that killed and made a lot of dogs sick from China, right? [/ QUOTE ] No, I did know that. However, that confirms my line of thinking - If you have a suspicion that someone is doing something wrong, the rest of Western society demands some proof before believing that. This is a pretty basic logical process - if you suspect something is dodgy, you should prove it is dodgy. If it is dodgy, it is probably fairly easy to detect. Of course, it is possible that dog food is tainted. Of course, it is possible that pokerstars is rigged - but before believing either statement, I need some evidence to support those statements.
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#57
08-28-2007, 02:56 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
I just sent cigital an email asking for the results of their test.
We'll see what happens.
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#58
08-28-2007, 02:56 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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No sir, I want to see the results, not PR speak. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly how would results allay your fears? [ QUOTE ] I seen my example thousands of times. Unfortunately most of this was when PT didn't pick up tourney stats. [/ QUOTE ] Do you still have the hand histories?
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#59
08-28-2007, 02:59 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] hey the NBA is/was rigged... why not stars? [/ QUOTE ] 'cause there's no proof that stars is rigged? since i'm not a follower of the nba, i don't know this, but i assume that there was some evidence at sometime to support your claim that it was rigged. [/ QUOTE ] Josem makes a good sheep. [/ QUOTE ] For requiring evidence to believe something? Let's look at this from another viewpoint. Person A comes in, and claims that there is a massive international fraud underway. Person B says, "show us some proof of this." Person A fails to provide any proof. Person A has no evidence to support his claim. Now, Person A claims that Person B is a sheep for doubting his belief that he has no evidence to support. This is rediculous.
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#60
08-28-2007, 03:01 AM
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Re: cash out curse on Stars
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No sir, I want to see the results, not PR speak. I seen my example thousands of times. Unfortunately most of this was when PT didn't pick up tourney stats. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] BMM concluded that the PokerStars RNG and shuffle comply with the requirements of the standard "I0101 - Internet Gaming Random Number Generator Requirements." [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Cigital has announced that it has confirmed the reliability and security of the random number generator (RNG) that PokerStars uses to shuffle cards on its PokerStars.com online poker site. [/ QUOTE ] You don't even have PT stats? I'm curious... I've played Limit, NL, STTs, and MTTs. I've played on several different sites, including PokerStars. I've played approximately 250K hands lifetime online. Why is it that I've never experienced anything unusual? Poker is a game of ups and downs. Some of those ups and downs can be "ridiculous", but that's just the way the game of poker is. I expect to get beaten by a two outer, or a gutshot straight occasionally. And it does happen occasionally, at the rate that it should be. Sometimes it feels like it's happening more than it should, but that's just because we as humans tend to exaggerate bad beat frequencies.
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