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08-11-2007, 11:17 PM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wtf, You have to pay $35 to participate in this poll? And some of them give away tickets? Sounds pretty weird to me. [/ QUOTE ] Romney bought a [censored] load and gave them away as well as a bus ride and dinner to any one who would vote for him. [/ QUOTE ] So the results of this straw poll are worthless. A great money making scheme by the people who perpetrate this thing. [/ QUOTE ] Which is why, I assume, voting is down and candidates feel safe to skip it. 
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#52
08-12-2007, 02:07 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wtf, You have to pay $35 to participate in this poll? And some of them give away tickets? Sounds pretty weird to me. [/ QUOTE ] Romney bought a [censored] load and gave them away as well as a bus ride and dinner to any one who would vote for him. [/ QUOTE ] So the results of this straw poll are worthless. A great money making scheme by the people who perpetrate this thing. [/ QUOTE ] 
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#53
08-12-2007, 03:56 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
I don't know what Republican, conservative, or libertarian bloggers are saying, but there are already a few liberal bloggers whispering about Diebold conspiracies.
As I mentioned in a different thread here, Ron Paul's campaign previously said they expected to finish in the top three, yet they failed to outpoll Tom Tancredo. How does that make you feel?
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#54
08-12-2007, 04:21 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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I don't know what Republican, conservative, or libertarian bloggers are saying, but there are already a few liberal bloggers whispering about Diebold conspiracies. As I mentioned in a different thread here, Ron Paul's campaign previously said they expected to finish in the top three, yet they failed to outpoll Tom Tancredo. How does that make you feel? [/ QUOTE ] Whats their theory, now the DESI machines have paper trails that show 100% accuracy of the touch screen results?
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#55
08-12-2007, 05:07 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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[ QUOTE ] I don't know what Republican, conservative, or libertarian bloggers are saying, but there are already a few liberal bloggers whispering about Diebold conspiracies. As I mentioned in a different thread here, Ron Paul's campaign previously said they expected to finish in the top three, yet they failed to outpoll Tom Tancredo. How does that make you feel? [/ QUOTE ] Whats their theory, now the DESI machines have paper trails that show 100% accuracy of the touch screen results? [/ QUOTE ] I can't find it, but I recall some half-baked conspiracy theory by an idiot about how the gap between tickets sold and votes counted had to be suppression of Ron Paul votes. I have seen an article on Ron Paul supporters being denied an article about a judge denying a request by Ron Paul supporters that the votes be counted publicly by hand and I did see jokes about the delay in releasing votes.
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08-12-2007, 05:43 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
You have to A. Find someone to take the ticket and B. Get that person to show up. Many of the tickets were purchased by campaigns hoping they'd be able to give them away.
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#58
08-12-2007, 06:41 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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Probably a dumb question. But if 26,000 tickets were sold why were only 14,000 votes cast? Isn`t each ticket worth one vote? [/ QUOTE ] In 1999, George W. Bush spent about $2 million and bought 10,500 tickets and got about 7400 votes for 31% of the vote. So Romney's performance is normal for a winner. Also that year, the Des Moines Register reported that 38,000 Republicans showed up (not all holding tickets presumably) in 1999 and about 24K voted that year vs. 30K and 14K this year. It's also possible that some people had tickets and stayed home because of the heat. The failure of Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain to show up and the lack of multiple high-priced dueling candidates (like Bush and Forbes in '99) probably depressed attendance, especially from people most likely to vote for front-runners, allowing third-tier fringe candidates like Paul and Tancredo to creep up, percentage-wise. Spealing of Ron Paul, I saw a Paul supporter commenting on a blog somewhere who suggested the possibility that Paul's wife was poisoned, claiming that the timing of her recent hospitalization was "suspicious".
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#59
08-12-2007, 07:10 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
I am curious as to who makes the money from this mockery of a display of democracy? Does the state of Iowa routinely pull in mad cash like this every election cycle? Outrage is not the right word for this...more like a combination of confusion and being disgusted.
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08-12-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: Estimate Straw poll rusults.
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I am curious as to who makes the money from this mockery of a display of democracy? Does the state of Iowa routinely pull in mad cash like this every election cycle? Outrage is not the right word for this...more like a combination of confusion and being disgusted. [/ QUOTE ] It's a fundraiser for the Iowa Republican Party at the state level. It also makes a ton of money for the city of Ames, which has every hotel room booked for the event.
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